Seconding: yes, this ‘bounce’ concept is extremely important in web analytics and it’s a core metric in Google Analytics. It makes a huge difference if a user clicks away after less than a second, or reads just a bit, or spends several minutes reading a webpage.
> On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:46, Hans Muller <j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl> wrote: > > Dear Federico and Magnus, > > Thank you for your links and further help. > > Perhaps WMF is not that obsessed with dwell time of a surfer on a webpage, > as are commercial websites and so Google Analytics with its concept of > bounce: the user request of another webpage within a sec, an immediate > rejection of the webpage. > > Or perhaps this cannot be logged server-side. > > Best regards, hansmuller > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller > > > > Op Ma, 18 januari, 2016 9:49 pm schreef Magnus Manske: >> OK, I am not sure I understand the issue correctly, so I'll just throw >> out some notes: >> >> * I do not count the pageviews. They are counted by the Wikimedia >> Foundation, I just use them as-is. >> >> >> * The official definition of page views seems to be at >> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Pageviews >> >> >> * AFAIK, the data before 2015-12 used only desktop views; the new one >> uses also mobile, but removes "views" by bots and crawlers. >> >> * Not sure what the "bounce" feature is; the preview thing in the mobile >> app? Or the MediaViewer? (I believe page views count neither of those) >> >> Finally, a "view" in the baglama2 tool means an image was included on a >> page that a human loaded in his/her browser. I have no data if that image >> was actually on the screen ("below the fold", no scrolling), but since >> "important" images in an article tend to be near the top, I just count >> the page view. >> >> Hope that helps, >> Magnus >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:19 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hans Muller, 18/01/2016 14:52: >>> >>>> As far as i can see, the API does not answer the bounce question. >>>> >>> >>> The API talks of pageviews >>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/pageviews_API ; your question is >>> IMHO the wrong one, i.e. "how can we estimate how many pageviews are >>> real?". The real question is "how many times are the files actually >>> seen?". >>> >>> To answer the real question, you have to use mediacounts instead: >>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data/Mediacounts >>> You can see an example at >>> http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/File:2015-10-beic-counts.ods >>> The results are very similar to what baglama yields, for this specific >>> case (BEIC media). >>> >>> Nemo >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Glamtools mailing list >>> Glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >>> >>> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Glamtools mailing list > Glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools _______________________________________________ Glamtools mailing list Glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools
