Hi, to all. I will take this more detailed today later then will, resolve this problems.
sri, 27. svi 2020. 23:30 Milo <mi...@milotype.de> je napisao: > I thank everybody's input … the only person not replying is gogo himself … > so go figure!? > > As outlined before, I'm no novice/beginner. I'm trilingual (hr, de, en), > bilingual natively (hr, de), with some knowledge of other european > languages, which helps me a lot to compare translations … I've translated > many open source software of different kinds in the past two years and have > never experienced such obstrusion/ignorance. > > As a mater of fact, because of gogo's attitude, GNOME's Croatian > translation team lately lost a Croatian native speaker as translator, who > was translating "orca" (program for blind users). And yes, the person IS > blind – so, who knows better? We are both translating "nvda" (screen reader > for blind users). Unfortunately, while complaining about a gogo's reply on > "orca" translation (which never got released), he responded only to my > email address, so here is his response: > > *Od: *<zvonimirek...@yandex.com> > *Predmet: **RE: New release of GIMP planned for February 14* > *Datum: *10. veljače 2020. u 22:48:29 CET > *Za: *"'Milo Ivir'" <m...@milotype.de> > > Hi, > The same is for orca. > Translation coordinator is here to help, not to reinforce their > terminology and suggest the terminology from ubuntu. > I want to be terminology independent and I want to use terminology > familiar by users, written in a natural language. > > > So, again, please let us find a solution! Presuming that my translations > (or other) are incorrect and only gogo's are correct, is NOT the right way. > > Cheers, > Milo > > P.S. Who decides and how, whether a translator has a certain quality? > > > 27.05.2020., u 20:56, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n <gnome-i18n@gnome.org> > je napisao: > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 03:18:59PM -0300, Rafael Fontenelle wrote: > > Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 12:32, Andre Klapper <ak...@gmx.net> > escreveu: > > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:31 +0200, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n wrote: > > Well, my 10 cent is that a bad translation is better than no > translation at all. > > > I'd very much disagree. No documentation at all is still better than > wrong, misleading, frustrating documentation which wasted my time. > > > To share one personal unpleasant experience: accessing GitHub Actions > documentation will automatically give me Brazilian Portuguese > translation, which is incomplete and in some cases with bad > translation. Even some keywords are translated, when they should not > (e.g. 'job' and 'schedule' keywords were translated). I always end up > switching to English, which as a translator (not GitHub's though) is > very disappointing. > > > 1) you know english > 2) you are a translator > > Please stop thinking that all people are like us. > > So, yes, quality translation is very important. > > > I never said what quality is not important. > > I said that a bad translation, for people that do not understand English > _at all_ is better than nothing (=English). Please think at some oriental > or arabic user for a moment and try to be in their shoes for a moment. > > > -- > > Saluton, > Marco Ciampa > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >
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