Andrew

Even if "deposit locally and then harvest centrally" is easy (and I would argue 
that it makes far more sense to do it the other way round, not least as a 
central repository like Europe PMC would have to harvest content from 
potentially hundreds of repositories) the real problem is this content 
typically cannot be harvested (and made available) for legal reasons.

So, by way of example, if you look at the Elsevier archiving policy 
(http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-access/green-open-access) you will see that 
archiving of the Accepted Author Manuscripts **is** permissible in IR's (and 
somewhat curiously in Arxiv), but not elsewhere, like PMC or Europe PMC.   So, 
if we set out about harvesting content and then making it available, we would 
receive take-down notices, which we would be obligated to comply with.  I use 
Elsevier in this example, but other publishers also "monitor" PMC/Europe PMC 
and issue take-down notices as they deem appropriate.

A better approach, in my opinion, is to encourage deposit centrally, where, not 
only can we convert the document into a more preservation-friendly, XML format, 
but we can also have clarity as to whether we can subsequently distribute the 
document to the relevant IR.  From April 2012, all Wellcome funded content that 
is published under a "gold" model will be licenced using CC-BY, and as such, 
suitable for redistribution to an IR (or indeed anywhere, subject to proper 
attribution).

Regards
Robert


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From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Andrew A. Adams
Sent: 24 February 2013 12:18
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Murray-Rust, Peter
Subject: [GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 
Suggestions


Peter,

Thank you for the correction. I mis-remembered the mandate from these (I think 
a bit confusingly named) systems. Too late to send a correction to an 
organisation like the White House. Hopefully if anyone who understand it well 
enough for it to be useful actually reads it, they will also spot and discount 
the error.

On your point on central deposit, I beg to differ, as you know. Deposit locally 
then harvest centrally is far more sensible than trying to mandate different 
deposit loci for the various authors in an institution. It's easy enough to 
automatically harvest/cross-deposit, and then one gets the best of all worlds. 
Central deposit and then local harvest is the wrong workflow. 
It's trying to make a river flow upstream. Sure, you can do it, but why bother 
if all you need is a connection one way or the other. ALl the benefits you 
claim simply come from deposit, not direct deposit, in central repositories. 
Which would you recommend for medical physics, by the way? 
ArXiv or PMC? Both surely, but that's much more easily achieved if the workflow 
is to deposit locally then automatically upload/harvest to both, than two 
central deposits or trying to set up cross-harvesting from ArXiv to PMC.


-- 
Professor Andrew A Adams                      a...@meiji.ac.jp
Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration,  and Deputy Director 
of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan       http://www.a-cubed.info/


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