Hi Sally,

I think what you are referring to is one of the value-adds that publishers 
provide to the literature. The more publishers provide this kind of 
interactivity with an article, the more useful the final published version is. 
It also distinguishes further between the 'static' pdf in a repository and the 
final published version.

This is why allowing authors to put their version of work into a repository is 
not 'economic suicide' as John Wiley claimed when I asked him about Wiley's 
open access position at a talk he gave at the Australian National University 
late last year.

Repositories are not a replacement for the publishing process. They merely make 
research (both published work and otherwise invisible grey literature) 
available for a wider audience.

There is a move towards having material deposited in repositories be included 
in a format which allows full text mining. This would be welcome for many 
researchers but as a repository manager, obtaining the accepted version of 
articles (in whatever format) is difficult enough. The reality is that if 
publishers simply dropped their embargo periods, there would not be a tsunami 
of deposits into repositories. Repository managers still need the accepted 
version of the work, and the researcher still needs to be motivated enough to 
provide this version.

And regardless, if having the static text file of articles in repositories does 
threaten the publishing model it does beg the question of what value-add 
publishers are offering to their readers in an instant and interconnected 
paradigm.

Dr Danny Kingsley
Executive  Officer
Australian Open Access Support Group
http://aoasg.org.au 

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I seem to recall that, in various surveys, one of the features found most 
useful by readers was linking to other resources (particularly reference 
linking).

Does this work in deposited versions of articles?  When I was working as an 
editor, checking (and not infrequently correcting) citations and inserting the 
correct DOI was a time-consuming task.

Sally 


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Andrew A. Adams
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Suggestions

Arthur Sale wrote:
> Hey, let's be realistic.  For most purposes text plus pictures is
adequate.
> Add videos if you must. Your average repository can cope with all 
> that, integrated into a pdf. We've probably got 95% coverage. One 
> cannot easily search pictures or video, but must rely on metadata and
surrounding clues.
> Most repositories can accept any file format but they are disconnected 
> from the object of choice, and are not displayed or searchable.
> 
> In some fields, like protein geometry, DNA sequences, crystallography, 
> architecture and even computer science that is inadequate. In these 
> cases a repository that has the ability to display and search formats 
> that no-one else can is invaluable to the researchers, especially if 
> they can index them by structure. So what we are talking about are 
> objects that are NOT reducible to readable paper. Focus on that. If 
> you want to search crystallographic structure, Google is not only 
> hopeless but useless. As long as they exist, subject repositories have 
> a place (a large place). I am not writing that institutional 
> repositories are not good, but they are not the answer to the world's 
> problems yet. Keep using them, but recognise that there is a 
> significant
scope for specialized repositories.

My focus is on the papers. The text and images published in the peer reviewed 
journal literature. For that, but the whole of that (all subjects, all papers), 
I contend that institutional repositories, with deposit of the paper mandated 
by the institution and funders, is the quickest and simplest route to universal 
gratis OA. If we receive that before I  clock out I can assure you that I will 
be involved in the push for expanding that openness, but I have yet to see a 
mechanism that scales to all fields better than institutional and funder 
mandates for IR-deposit (plus whatever data deposit individual discplines 
mandate, with simple cross-deposit of papers where feasible).

For specific fields there are areas of highly structured data that could and 
should be put into disciplinary archives, and linked across to papers that 
use/refer to that data. These archives are best centrally-run by a non-profit 
scholarly body. Papers that reference data in that can easily be deposited 
locally and then the central data repository can either have the paper pushed 
to it or pull the meta-data and link back to the IR for the full-text (with 
access button request if needed by publisher embargoes).

I do not disagree on this. However, the push for central discipline-specific 
repositories being the mandated locus of deposit for papers does not scale to 
all disciplines because not all disciplines have a need of a data repository, 
not all disciplines have a cohesive enough body to run one and many disciplines 
have very fuzzy edges.

-- 
Professor Andrew A Adams                      a...@meiji.ac.jp
Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration,  and Deputy Director 
of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan       http://www.a-cubed.info/


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