On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Leslie Carr <l...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
There have already been joint publisher/repository initiatives such as > PIRUS/COUNTER that deal with this situation. See > http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/programmes/pals3/pirus.aspx > > "The aim of this project is to develop COUNTER-compliant usage reports at > the individual article level that can be implemented by any entity > (publisher, aggregator, IR, etc.,) that hosts online journal articles and > will enable the usage of research outputs to be recorded, reported and > consolidated at a global level in a standard way." > > > > On 14 Mar 2013, at 21:19, "Stevan Harnad" <har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto: > har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote: > > > On 2013-03-14, at 1:13 AM, Nick Thieberger <th...@unimelb.edu.au<mailto: > th...@unimelb.edu.au>> wrote: > > But what if the article is in an OA journal that would like to have the > hit count for > downloads from its site? Is there scope for the mandate to cover only > non-OA > journal articles perhaps? > > That would be an exceedingly bad solution, for authors, for their > institutions > for their research and for OA. > > And institutions would lose a simple, natural, powerful and uniform way to > monitor > mandate compliance by their authors. > > And what's more important: hit/download counts for authors, for their own > articles, > and for their institutions, or hit/download counts for publishers' sites? > > But in any case there's a simple (though silly) compromise: > > All articles (whether subscription or Gold, emargoed or not) must be > immediately > deposited in the author's institutional repository. > > Where the author either wishes to comply with a non-OA publisher's embargo > on Green OA, or with a Gold-OA publisher's desire to have hit/download > counts > for its site, access to the deposit need not be made OA (until the embargo > elapses or until the author tires of accommodating publishers' importunate > nonsense). > > Stevan Harnad > > > Nick Thieberger > Editor > Language Documentation & Conservation Journal > http://www.nflrc.hawaii.edu/ldc/ > > > On 14 March 2013 11:16, Stevan Harnad <amscifo...@gmail.com<mailto: > amscifo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Full Text: http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/994-.html > > Executive Summary: The proposed HEFCE/REF Open Access [OA] mandate< > http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/hefce/content/news/news/2013/open_access_letter.pdf> > -- that in order to be eligible for REF, the peer-reviewed final draft of > all journal articles must be deposited in the author’s institutional > repository immediately upon publication, with embargoes applicable only to > the date at which the article must be made OA – is excellent, and provides > exactly the sort of complement required by the RCUK OA mandate. It ensures > that authors deposit immediately and institutionally and it recruits their > institutions to monitor and ensure compliance. > For journal articles, no individual or disciplinary exceptions or > exemptions to the immediate-deposit are needed, but embargo length can be > adapted to the discipline or even to exceptional individual cases. > Embargo length is even more important for open data, and should be > carefully and flexibly adapted to the needs not only of disciplines and > individuals, but of each individual research project. > Requiring monograph OA if the author does not wish to provide it is > not reasonable, but perhaps many or most monograph authors would not mind > depositing their texts as Closed Access. > > > -- > To unsubscribe from the BOAI Forum, use the form on this page: > http://www.soros.org/openaccess/forum.shtml?f > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from the BOAI Forum, use the form on this page: > http://www.soros.org/openaccess/forum.shtml?f >
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