Does the "the right way" to contribute to scientific communication in context of OA require the use of (non- or for-profit) third-party services as opposed to self-publishing? If so, why?
-Sarven https://csarven.ca/#i On 31/03/2020 17.17, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: > I also strongly agree with Peter. As for Éric Archambault, it is simply > a pity to see greed trump principles. > > One last note: OA will succeed, despite what Stevan says. Let us shape > OA the right way, and certainly not in the way supported by Elsevier: in > their view, OA is a "charitable" gesture that is applied only in extreme > cases. The reality is that the Great Conversation of science constantly > needs it. > > The right way to go is OA free for authors and for readers, which means > that it must be subsidized. But that is all right because scientific > research is subsidized and scientific communication is an integral part > of scientific research (and it costs only 1% of the rest of research). > > Jean-Claude Guédon > > Le 31/03/2020 à 08:28, Stevan Harnad a écrit : >> I agree with Peter. >> >> Eric has gone over to the devil. >> >> This is a shameful time for token measures. >> >> Covid-19 is a litmus test for disclosing who are going all out for the >> public good and who are in it for themselves. >> >> OA used to be for the sake of scientific and scholarly research -- an >> abstraction, and it did not succeed. >> >> Here it’s about survival. >> >> Stevan Harnad >> Editor,Animal Sentience >> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fanimalstudiesrepository.org%2Fanimsent%2F&data=01%7C01%7C%7Cd547a0da71564c7fb48108d7d56f0886%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=u4SeHgBD0Upyemmp4Nf0%2Be9a3nOcKNimsGZ3BY2YhGA%3D&reserved=0> >> Professor of Psychology, Université du Québec à Montréal >> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcrcsc.uqam.ca%2F&data=01%7C01%7C%7Cd547a0da71564c7fb48108d7d56f0886%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=cXNp0TpmsXPsLTCN5AYm8hfmpZmgij7X2Up3%2FNnGjvo%3D&reserved=0> >> Adjunct Professor of Cognitive Science, McGill University >> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcgill.ca%2Fpsychology%2Fabout%2Ffaculty-0%2Faffiliate-and-adjunct&data=01%7C01%7C%7Cd547a0da71564c7fb48108d7d56f0886%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=FirEAYdQS9zIJvZwZOu3TyqInl7b71VCYxIDnoAQ6O4%3D&reserved=0> >> Emeritus Professor of Cognitive Science, University of Southampton >> <http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/people/harnad> >> >>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm...@cam.ac.uk >>> <mailto:pm...@cam.ac.uk>> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:48 PM Éric Archambault >>> <eric.archamba...@science-metrix.com >>> <mailto:eric.archamba...@science-metrix.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Peter, >>>> >>>> Two months ago, that is, on January 27, we started work at >>>> Elsevier to make available as much as possible of the scholarly >>>> literature on coronavirus research easily discoverable and >>>> freely accessible. >>>> >>>> At 1science, we created the Coronavirus Research Hub: >>>> >>> Why does Elsevier not simply open all its content and let the >>> scientific , medical and citizen community decide what they want? >>> Elsevier can't guess what we want. >>> >>> The Royal Society has done this. Elsevier can afford to do it. >>>> >>>> If we can help further, please let us know, we have been on it >>>> for two months and we continue to evaluate options to help the >>>> research community. >>>> >>> My colleague, a software developer, working for free on openVirus >>> software, is spending most of his time working making masks in >>> Cambridge Makespace to ship to Addenbrooke's hospital. When he goes >>> to the literature to find literature on masks, their efficacy and use >>> and construction he finds paywall after paywall after paywall after >>> paywall .... Some are 1-page notes behind a 36 USD Elsevier paywall. >>> >>> Do not tell us what we want. let us choose freely. >>> >>> Peter Murray-Rust >>> >>> Volunteer fighting for free scientific knowledge in a world crisis. >>> >>> -- >>> "I always retain copyright in my papers, and nothing in any contract >>> I sign with any publisher will override that fact. You should do the >>> same". >>> >>> Peter Murray-Rust >>> Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics >>> Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry >>> University of Cambridge >>> CB2 1EW, UK >>> +44-1223-763069 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> GOAL@eprints.org >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
