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Hi Kevin,

It would benefit if you explained yourself in your posts; so that you can prove 
show silly you are. This is a lot better than your hit-and-run attacks or your 
smears.

I was referring to YOUR standards of decency as an atheist. I then in the very 
next sentence, went on to compare YOUR standards to my OTHER atheist friends. 
(see below) Yet with your tunnel anti-Catholic mind, you misinterpret my 
writings, just like you do the other writings. You compared the standards of my 
atheist friends with my religious friends, based on your miss-representation.  
Then shamelessly, you give me your bogus reasoning.  Well I am not surprised 
with your misrepresentations and your explanations.  I have mentioned to you 
this before. Your writings are a comedy, that I could enjoy this weekend.

Your response about the Irish continues to be a non-response, that only you can 
make sense.  Why would the Irish join secret societies when they could drink 
their Guinness in public? What is wrong with joining societies like the Masons, 
Rotarians, Lions, Elk lodge etc.? George Washington and many founding fathers 
of the USA were Masons.

As regards the KC fighting issues about "homosexuality" at the behest of the 
Vatican.  Perhaps next, you will write the Evangelicals, Baptists etc. etc. are 
also stooges of the Vatican.  Why would one not expect a Catholic / Christian 
institution to support "biblical teachings"? Curiously the immorality of 
homosexuality is what you specifically did not want your children (under 20 
years) to be exposed to. Did your kids call you a stooge of the Vatican? 

After I finish laughing at your inconsistencies ... I would like to save my 
neurons for a more logical dialogue. Thank you for the comedy.  This is my last 
post on this thread.
Kind Regards, GL

-------------- Kevin Saldanha 
 
I am also pleased to know that most of Gilbert's atheist friends have much 
higher morals and decency standards than his religious ones. He would be 
pleased to know that these standards were attained by free thinking and 
contemplation, primarily based on empathy we evolved over the last 6 million 
years, and were not handed down from a supernatural being carved on stone 
tablets. 
 
Clergy have been admonished for threating ex-communication and denial of the 
eucharist to parishoners who supported same-sex human rights in contravention 
of biblical teachings.  The KoC has therefore taken it upon themselves to 
'fight the good fight' for the faith.

---------- Gilbert Lawrnce wrote:

I asked you a simple question. You did not have an answer. 
 
Neither could you give me three to five (or even one) example of KC doing the 
bidding of the Vatican contrary to the interest of Catholic Americans or 
America. Do you think American Catholics are unable on their own to evaluate 
and articulate morality? 
  
Your string of anti-Catholic posts, as an ex-Catholic and an atheist, are an 
insensitive, offensive claptrap.  ....  Don't you have any shame?  Most 
atheists I know have much higher morals and decency standards.

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