------------------------------------------------------------------------ * G * O * A * N * E * T **** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location
Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bosco, you misunderstood completely what I was saying. The "posorkar" stereotype about Hindu Goans is one constructed and prevalent *only* in the so-called "Old Conquest" areas of Goa. I guess it wouldn't even exist (the stereotype, that is) in the outlying talukas of Goa, leave alone Mumbai/Bombay. You have to agree that Catholic and Hindu migration patterns out of Goa have been different. Catholics went to the rest of undivided India *and* abroad. (Bombay, Bangalore, Karachi, Calcutta, Rangoon, etc and also the traditional places of migration like East Africa, Lusophone Africa, then the Gulf, UK, Canada, Australia, and even a sprinkling to the Far East, Brazil or whereever). Hindu Goans mostly travelled to other cities of India. I would think Cornel got it quite wrong in explaining the reasons for this. It's interesting to see how affluent Goans as well as those from the subaltern sections migrated out of the place, and managed to build their lives in strange places all over the globe. But don't mix up stereotypes within part of Goa, and Hindu migration to Bombay. There's no link between the two whatsoever, afaik. FN PS: The Goa Hindu Association has been active, and if I'm not mistaken, Prabhakar Angle's book on the economy of Goa (maybe an earlier edition) was published by them. Not all associations that are active have an online presence, and vice versa though. It would be good if someone could build the link with such organisations and Goanet. On 18/09/2007, Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon Sep 17 05:48:12 PDT 2007, Frederick [FN] Noronha wrote: > > > Cornel, The "Hindu shopkeeper" is a Catholic-generated > > stereotype (half-true, wholly false, as the Xavier Institute > > of Communications at Mumbai would say) generated in the > > so-called Old Conquests. Of course, all Hindus weren't and > > couldn't have been shopkeepers! > > RESPONSE:Shopkeeper?? Geez!! There was a fairly considerable contingent of > Goan Hindus in Mumbai since the 19th century (as per my reading, so could be > earlier). The early settlers lived in the Girgaum area of Mumbai. Early in > the 20th century they formed The Goa Hindu Association, Bombay (TGHAB). > Names like Gaitonde, Bostodkar, Kamat come to mind. A number of Goan Hindu > doctors started a clinic or hospital in the 60s in Mumbai. The infamous Dr > Shirodkar had a hospital at Chowpatty where many a Goan was born. I also > recollect an English/Marathi magazine (possibly called Gomantak) of TGHAB > that I browsed thru at the Goan Institute - Mumbai.....Oh yes....a Dr > Bhandare comes to mind too. Maybe our very own Bhandare could shed some > light on him. > Don't know if TGHAB still exists?? > > Maybe the Bombay stalwarts - Eric, Eugene, Roland or some others.......could > throw some light. Once can never learn enough of Goa's history. > > But shopkeeper?? That must be the flipside of the stereotype, where > Christians (usually blokes named Michael & Anthony) in Hindi-flicks are > portrayed as alcoholics!! And ofcourse there was 'Mona darling'. > > - Bosco > T.O -- Frederick Noronha Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org In Hyderabad. Ph 040-23132176 SMS: 9822122436