All I can offer on that is that I chose patch over helper, because it
appeared helper was more oriented with getting the google
authentication system working. I have had 0 problems using patch and
will personally continue to use it in the future.

On Oct 22, 1:12 pm, johnP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK - Thanks, Joseph for helping understand the role of the Utilities
> project.
>
> A final question is the difference / compatibility between the Helper
> project, and the Patch project.  Currently, I have completed some work
> on a project which was started in an environment with django .97 and
> the Helper.  Now, I'd like to establish a foundation for the longer
> term.  There is a bunch of rearranging I need to do to my code; I want
> to move to django 1.0; and I want to have non-Google login/
> authentication.
>
> After research, I get the impression that the Patch serves my needs
> better than the Helper.  It has zipped Django 1.0 implemented. It
> seems to have better support for authentication than the Helper.  And
> in general, it appears that it is more substantial in terms of active
> development, than Helper is.  Helper seems like it has slowed down a
> bit.  It's last release was in early August.
>
> So my understanding is:
>
>  1.  I should choose *either* Helper or Patch - not both.
>  2.  It appears that Patch has better support for implementing
> authentication.
>  3.  It appears that Patch is reliable.
>
> Is my analysis correct?
>
> Sorry to belabor the point.  Maybe someone else will get value from
> this thread, too.  :)
>
> On Oct 22, 5:04 am, Waldemar Kornewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 22, 3:32 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > utilities is just a bunch of, well, utilities, to make working with
> > > appengine easier, and is not django specific at all. It started
> > > because I recognized that there was no session api for appengine at
> > > all. Both helper and patch have gotten Django sessions working, and
> > > I'm not sure what level of support they offer for cache in django. I
> > > created appengine-utilities specifically to handle sessions and cache
> > > the best possible way on appengine, taking advantage of memcache to
> > > provide the best performance.
>
> > Appenginepatch allows to use Django's memcache backend, so everything
> > should just work.
>
> > Apart from the goal of making Django work seamlessly, appenginepatch
> > also provides a library of utility functions/extras. For example, our
> > most recent addition is a prefetcher for reference properties which
> > could help speed up your code.
>
> > Just take a look at the (uhm, minimalistic :) 
> > documentation:http://code.google.com/p/app-engine-patch/wiki/Documentation
>
> > Bye,
> > Waldemar Kornewald
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