On EC2 you can make your own image, but that's not the point. I
believe no one in their right mind would use a public image for their
production system, it is just not safe by any means.

You need to do a lot more than by lanching an image. You need to
manage them just like a real operating system, security auditing,
patching, debugging. Of course you can also simply terminate any image
which causing problems.

I think it's still too early to say which cloud computing product will
succeed in the end though. They may coexist for ever just like grocery
store and restaurant.

On Nov 4, 2:57 pm, sal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think the scaling issue here is understated. Compared to traditional
> > scaling strategies that organizations use to perform, GAE provides
> > alot of transparency. The premise of GAE is to put focus on
> > development of applications. Thus, GAE is more developer focused. EC2
> > is a more general solution. Furthermore, I imagine instantiating more
> > VMs is a form of network administration that doesn't exist in GAE ...
>
> I wouldn't assume this yet, as I'm sure you'll have to perform some
> sort of verification/configuration to 'scale up' with GAE also.
> Google likely wont just let your app spike though all the funds in
> your bank account - you'll have to login to some kind of console to
> configure how much resources you want to pay for.  EC2 has the same
> thing basically - you just go to a web page and control how many
> instances are running.
>
> > unless your application is so advanced that it comes with logic to
> > efficiently instantiate and shutdown VMs on its own.
>
> There are already free utilities that do this with EC2 it seems.
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 11:20 am, sal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > EC2 also has a lot other usage than hosting a web site. You can use it
> > > > for scientific computing, video transcoding, data mining and etc.
>
> > > I agree - you have a little more freedom / computing power / resources
> > > than you do with GAE, and its pretty cheap.  A quick lookthrough on
> > > Amazon's site shows EC2's lowend costing $0.10 per hour (ten cents an
> > > hour) to use.  And you can shut it down/start it up whenever you want
> > > so you don't incur much cost while 'playing around' in the beginning.
>
> > > I did like being able to 'dive in' to GAE just using my Google login
> > > and start playing around - but EC2 seems more practical for real world
> > > use yet.  There needs to be more to make GAE something viable... or
> > > maybe Google's not really aiming to compete on the 'high end' cloud
> > > computing arena, more just to give a place for people to create Google
> > > Gadgets?  (In that case it should be named 'Google Gadget Engine'!!)
> > > But I don't think that's the case, I must be missing something =)
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