> Do you see the words "social" and "moral" in addition to "legal" in
> the definition for "obligation"? Do you even understand what those
> words mean?

Yes, I do.  And I also understand how social and moral obligations
work.  If you feel that Google is violating a social or moral
obligation, you don't have any recourse other than to shun Google and
to try to convince others to do likewise.  You're not satisfied with
shun, so either you don't understand social or moral obligations or
you think that Google has some other type of obligation.  Since the
only remaining one is legal....

> Some users reported a problem and wanted to know if Google has any
> plan to address the problem. For whatever reason that makes you very
> angry,

Huh?  I'm not angry.  I'm merely pointing out that Google's
capabilities in this area are limited, that they need to take their
complaints elsewhere if they want guarantees.

Do you really believe that Google can honor a promise that a given
site won't be blocked if the Chinese govt wants to block said site?
(Feel free to assume that the site is hosted in China.)

> The same basis that compelled you to feel justified in ordering others
> not to report problems and not to ask for Google's help in solving
> their problems.

Except that I didn't order anyone to do anything, which may explain
why you didn't quote any such order.  I merely pointed out that Google
can't do as they ask and pointed them to someone who can.

Why does that bother you so much?



On Apr 6, 12:52 am, Andy <selforgani...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's the plain meaning of the word.  I apologise for not knowing that
> > you didn't know what it meant when you wrote that Google had an
> > obligation to make GAE available in China.  Are there other statements
> > that you made without understanding their meaning?
>
> If you think "obligation" only refers to "legal obligation", you are,
> as usual, very mistaken.
>
> From the dictionary:
> Obligation:
> A social, legal, or moral requirement
>
> Do you see the words "social" and "moral" in addition to "legal" in
> the definition for "obligation"? Do you even understand what those
> words mean? Feel free to look them up. I have an obligation to provide
> the best service to my clients. Does that mean I'm legally required to
> do that? Of course not. But is it still an obligation? Absolutely. Can
> you keep driveling on about things you know nothing about? I wouldn't
> bet against that.
>
> I apologize for not knowing that you didn't know what it meant when
> you wrote that obligation only means legal obligation.  Are there
> other statements that you made without understanding their meaning?
>
> Next time when you find yourself once again talking about something
> you clearly know nothing about, I highly recommend consulting a
> dictionary.
>
> That or keep your mouth closed. Better to keep your mouth shut and be
> thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt
>
> > China availability issue is one of the few issues where folks claim
> > that/act like Google has an obligation
>
> Let me get this straight:
>
> Some users reported a problem and wanted to know if Google has any
> plan to address the problem. For whatever reason that makes you very
> angry,
>
> Newsflash: this entire forum is full of threads reporting problems
> with GAE and asking about Google's plan to fix those problems. Are you
> going to post your "Google has no legal obligation to solve your
> problem!" response to every single one of those threads?
>
> > And the basis for this order is...
>
> The same basis that compelled you to feel justified in ordering others
> not to report problems and not to ask for Google's help in solving
> their problems. So you tell me.
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