Hi Christian,

First of all, I need to apologize that your issue if different from the one
I mentioned.
I'm escalating this to the engineering team.

-- Takashi


On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:45 AM, c h <how...@umich.edu> wrote:

> can you at least provide for me information about how the graph is wrong,
> how much it is wrong, and how to calculate what my expected charges should
> be until the issue is resolved?  otherwise i expect to be billed at the
> lower rate that your charts and graphs show me.
>
>
> On Monday, October 8, 2012 6:36:03 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry I should have been more clear. I think this issue is affecting only
>> the graph. The billing amount should be still correct.
>>
>> If you feel differently, please consult our billing support team at:
>> http://support.google.com/**code/go/cloud_billing<http://support.google.com/code/go/cloud_billing>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM, c h <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> What should i file as the bug?  As far as i can tell google is
>>> overcharging us by 2x.  This needs to be resolved immediately and 
>>> **retroactively.
>>>  I'll have our company finance officers get in touch with google billing to
>>> get this settled, and i'll file the bug.
>>>
>>> thank you,
>>>
>>> christian
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 8, 2012 6:25:07 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, c h <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Takashi,
>>>>>
>>>>> So that means the what you show throughout the day for Frontend
>>>>> instance hours, and the graph of the number of instances currently is
>>>>> inaccurate?  We are concerned because we made a change (disabled appstats)
>>>>> which seemed to decrease the number of hours we were using significantly,
>>>>> but the cost did not go down.
>>>>>
>>>>> When will the fix for the dashboard go into place?  Our bill has
>>>>> nearly doubled since switching to python2.7 and we need to be able
>>>>> to optimize our application, but if we don't know what resources it is
>>>>> actually using we won't be able to find the right things to target.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the inconvenience. Can you file a bug on our issue tracker
>>>> for tracking purpose?
>>>>
>>>> -- Takashi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, October 8, 2012 6:10:04 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the info. We're aware of this issue in the graph, working
>>>>>> on the fix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Takashi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:37 AM, c h <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i sent my appid in on friday.  it looks like over the weekend we are
>>>>>>> continuing to have this mis-match between hours in the console and hours
>>>>>>> then billed.  am i reading something wrong?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, October 5, 2012 12:43:09 PM UTC-7, c h wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Takashi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply!  I have some backends, but those are
>>>>>>>> accounted under backend instance hours.  nothing else hitting 
>>>>>>>> frontends.  i
>>>>>>>> just double checked the chart for all versions and it is what i sent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i did not do any backup/copy/delete tasks with Datastore Admin for
>>>>>>>> several days now.  nothing is hung there that i can see.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i'd prefer to to send appid off the group...will do so in a moment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> christian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:27:16 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo
>>>>>>>> (Google) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi christian,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the instance chart only for one version?
>>>>>>>>> Do you have any other version which runs some instances?
>>>>>>>>> Did you run any backup/copy/delete task with Datastore Admin?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the answers are no to all of above, please tell me your app-id.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Takashi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:34 AM, c h <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for the last few days i've been tracking instance hours on my
>>>>>>>>>> app.  when i look at the instance hours in the dashboard they are 
>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>> smaller than the billed amount.  yesterday at about 11:55pm (just 
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> the reset) the dashboard showed me about 400 frontend instance hours 
>>>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>>>  My bill for yesterday shows over 1,000 Frontend Instance hours used.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Further when i look at the "Instances" chart i see that i was
>>>>>>>>>> never over 30 billed instances....so if we say 30 instances X 24 
>>>>>>>>>> hours (all
>>>>>>>>>> F1) that would be 720 Frontend Instance hours.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm confused as to why the numbers are not lining up?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am i reading something incorrectly?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> christian
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