It's also a point of principle. We are already paying for the App Engine service through that infrastructure, and we are forced to use Apps because of a quirk of that infrastructure. Now we are having to pay for that privilege if we want to do more that the absolute minimum (having multiple email accounts for an application is a fairly common/predominant use-case).
It seems perfectly reasonable for Google to have made this change for all the other uses of Apps, but it seems to me that the App Engine/Apps relationship is a slightly special edge case. Perhaps it's time the App Engine team put some serious consideration into how they might decouple the two services so that we can use our own domains in a more traditional manner? On Friday, December 7, 2012 10:35:09 AM UTC, Mat Jaggard wrote: > > Hi Steve, > I think you're missing the point. Some startups are getting going with > zero capital because an individual with some skills and some time can > produce and sell a product using free cloud services and then once they've > made a few bob can upgrade. > > Google WERE supporting this model very well - shame on you for stopping. > > Mat. > > On Friday, 7 December 2012 09:18:18 UTC, Steve Daniels wrote: >> >> Hi Thomas, >> >> I don't mean to show disrespect, but if your startup can't afford $50 to >> send email from a Google Apps address, then you've probably got bigger >> issues. >> >> Yours Respectfully, >> >> Steve >> >> On Friday, 7 December 2012 07:11:24 UTC, Thomas Wiradikusuma wrote: >>> >>> Hi Greg (of Google), >>> >>> I agree of what the other Greg said. It's very common to send >>> transactional emails from a dedicated address (e.g. noreply). It's not >>> professional (and even raise suspicion) if the "Click here to reset your >>> password" email comes from j...@startupname.com for example. >>> >>> If it's not possible to increase the account from 1 to n, at least >>> please allow the use of alias. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 7 December 2012 10:42:42 UTC+8, Greg wrote: >>>> >>>> Just saw that Google Apps is no longer free for >>>> businesses<http://googleenterprise.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/changes-to-google-apps-for-businesses.html> >>>> . >>>> >>>> I have no problem paying for a Google Apps account where I actually use >>>> Google apps, but at the moment you have to have a Google Apps account to >>>> link a domain to an Appengine app. Some of our apps have two or three >>>> domains showing the same app, and because you need to have an account for >>>> each email address that Appengine sends email from, we have three or four >>>> accounts per domain. So this is potentially going to add $600 per year to >>>> our costs - all for virtual accounts that don't actually use Google Apps >>>> at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> Can someone from Google comment please? Either Google Apps accounts >>>> need to remain free if they are associated with Appengine apps, or there >>>> needs to be another way to link domains (and authorise email addresses) >>>> for >>>> Appengine. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/Yg6KgOUe3OgJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
