Hi Michael, Brad and everyone else here, Just wanted to update and get updated on the progress of the issues raised here.
It has been over four months since I wrote the feedback above and still situation is not much better, as the two main tools don't work for us and we have to go back to old console for that: 1) Datastore query is VERY slow and useless without filters. (I have seen shortly preview of new version in January, which was great, but that unfortunately disappeared) 4) Appengine Search comes empty, again old console shows all the data across namespaces (says "This application has no indexes") I have seen there were a number of improvements in other areas, but these tools are key ones for us and cause lots of problems. We are blind without seeing data. One allows to browse through search data and another to Query Datastore. Best, Huseyn Guliyev On Friday, January 2, 2015 at 7:25:50 PM UTC, Michael Thomsen (Google Inc.) wrote: > > Hi, yes there are some known issues with datastore UI and Europe. We have > a bunch of fixes we have been working on for a while going out in the next > few weeks that hopefully will improve this. I will check back on that > shortly. > > Also, issue ii) you mentioned above should be resolved now. Did you notice > any difference there? > > On Friday, December 19, 2014 4:37:31 AM UTC-8, husayt wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> Do you know, if there is any progress on the issues above? >> We are really struggling with this new Cloud Console. >> >> I am not sure if this is related to our App being hosted in Europe. It >> seems something is fundamentally wrong with Europe hosted Appengine >> instances. Cloud Console issues, backup issues, managed backup not >> supported and etc. This really worries us >> >> Thanks. >> Hg >> >> On Monday, November 24, 2014 6:59:41 PM UTC, Michael Thomsen (Google >> Inc.) wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the very detailed feedback! I have logged bugs for these, >>> hopefully we will get them fixed shortly. >>> >>> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:43:53 PM UTC-8, husayt wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> Today is my lucky day. Someone is looking at concrete issues with Cloud >>>> Console. I will provide you with any information you need. You can't >>>> imagine how much pain I had with it. >>>> >>>> Re 1. To be fair for last two days it seems to be working. But I had >>>> problems opening task queue when it had lots of tasks in it and it was >>>> active. >>>> >>>> Re2. a) I go to Dashboard and here is what coming: >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kxWOxb6EVZY/VG5Yf3xC4gI/AAAAAAAABoM/gTlluuC_41c/s1600/Screenshot%2B2014-11-20%2B21.08.16.png> >>>> >>>> 2b) GIF speaks better that 1000 pictures. Here is a gif showing my >>>> experience with QueryTool: >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-34538Z_dZZ4/VG5eMBdae7I/AAAAAAAABoc/7r6gmL7XF1w/s1600/console.gif> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What can we see from the gif above: >>>> i) apart from being very,very slow, it gives error messages even >>>> without me selecting anything (which is very annoying) >>>> ii) then I try to enter namespace and kind, and it keeps giving >>>> exceptions (seems it is trying to be smart and lookup while i am typing, >>>> but I would rather it wait till i finish typing) >>>> iii) Here is the biggest issue. Once I typed namespace and kind and >>>> it tells me there is no such entity, i have to clear kind field and paste >>>> it again for me to finally see entity >>>> iv) no way to see list of namespaces >>>> v) no way to see list of kinds >>>> >>>> It seems this query tool was not properly tested with namespaces. I >>>> hope you can see, it is a pain to use. I even don't mention the >>>> improvements to the core functionality of the tool, just to get the >>>> basics >>>> working that will be great in itself. >>>> >>>> Re 3 &4: It's not intermittent, just doesn't work for one particular >>>> project (which by the way is the one I care much about). This is what I >>>> see: >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rMmy63weCD8/VG5XcuQQt6I/AAAAAAAABoE/uEyttidzqfM/s1600/Screenshot%2B2014-11-20%2B21.02.01.png> >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any more information. >>>> Thanks . >>>> >>>> Best Huseyn >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:54:42 PM UTC, Michael Thomsen (Google >>>> Inc.) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Huseyn, >>>>> >>>>> If there are issues in the new console we definitely want to get them >>>>> resolved. Some questions: >>>>> >>>>> RE 1: Do you mean that some times the task queue table simply fails to >>>>> load? Do you get a specific error when that happens? How consistently >>>>> does >>>>> it occur? It it the pull queue tab, the push queue tab, the cron jobs >>>>> tab, >>>>> or all of them? >>>>> >>>>> RE 2: Again, can you detail what it is that does not work? For a), >>>>> what are the stats that are missing? For b, what specific types of >>>>> queries >>>>> are missing? >>>>> >>>>> RE 3 & 4: Is this an intermittent issue, or do these always come up >>>>> empty? Do you have this problem just in a single project or in all of >>>>> them? >>>>> >>>>> RE 5: The documentation is here. Can you let me know what things you >>>>> think are missing? >>>>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/articles/logging >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Michael Thomsen >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:05 PM, husayt <hus...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Brad, >>>>>> this is one of our major pains using Appengine. Old console is very >>>>>> slow and new one is very buggy. I can notice new things appearing there >>>>>> all >>>>>> the time so I know team is working on it, but it is still very >>>>>> unreliable. >>>>>> I must have sent tonnes of error reports by now, but to this day it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> working as expected. Also it seems, it depends on the project. On some >>>>>> projects it works better, on some worse. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to be specific, I will list my main pains: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Task queue doesn't work, or works intermittently( update: works >>>>>> today, didn't work yesterday). I often had to go to old console for that >>>>>> 2) Cloud Datastore management doesn't work >>>>>> a) Dashboard half works. Doesn't give main stats, but if I put >>>>>> entity name and Landlord after some wait unexpectedly result appears >>>>>> b) Query is the most important tool for me there, it's extremely >>>>>> buggy and disappointing. If you ask me for a single thing to improve, >>>>>> that >>>>>> would be Datastore Query tool. >>>>>> 3) Memcache viewer comes empty, while old console shows all the data >>>>>> 4) Appengine Search comes empty, again old console shows all the >>>>>> data across namespaces >>>>>> 5) Log browser. Some tips on doing effective search will be very >>>>>> useful. Otherwise it seems there is a lot of potential and we are not >>>>>> even >>>>>> touching the surface. >>>>>> >>>>>> To be fair I got to say, it is better this week. So it's improving, >>>>>> but certainly not as expected. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is really important to us and one of the areas where Google >>>>>> Console could shine, as there is so much power hidden there. Just need >>>>>> to >>>>>> get UI to do it's act. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Huseyn Guliyev >>>>>> www.landmax.pro >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:08:42 PM UTC, Brad Abrams wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +Michael who is the PM for the new console. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I am very interested in knowing if other people are seeing >>>>>>> this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ..brad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:42 AM, kj <kei...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have never had problems with the old (original) appengine >>>>>>>> console. However, whenever I try to use the new one, it hangs quite a >>>>>>>> bit. >>>>>>>> The only way I can seem to get it to stop hanging it to close all >>>>>>>> browser >>>>>>>> windows, log out of all google accounts, then log in with just the >>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>> google account that is manging appengine and then go to the console. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> is extremely annoying. 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