> On Feb 22, 2016, at 3:44 PM, 'Jon Parrott' via Google App Engine > <google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Are there plans to port over NDB for datastore access on managed VMs? > > There is on-going discussion about NDB for Cloud Datastore here > <https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python/issues/557#issuecomment-106952671>. > The tl;dr is that basically it's possible, it's planned, but its contingent > on the next release of the Cloud Datastore API and decoupling NDB from the > App Engine SDK. >
Great. > That being said, you can absolutely continue use NDB in Managed VMs by using > runtime: python-compat > <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/managed-vms/python/migrating-an-existing-app>. > > Is that new? Last I looked I believe NDB was not supported. If I could suggest it would be helpful to use more specific terminology than Datastore on that page. > Is webapp2 going to be deprecated > > There are no present plans that I'm aware of to deprecate webapp2. Because > webapp2 is a WSGI-compliant web framework and is not itself tied to App > Engine, you can use it in Standard, Managed VMs, and pretty much anywhere > else. It'll continue to work everywhere WSGI works. Sure - I currently use it on GCE as well just to not use two frameworks. But it is abandoned as far as I can tell - there are bugs that have not been addressed in years. > It's also an open-source project and patches are always welcome. > I’m sorry, but that’s a little disingenuous. As far as I can tell there is _no_ activity on webapp2. I submitted a bug report that pointed to an exact line of code that needed to be changed but there was no response (https://code.google.com/archive/p/webapp-improved/issues/102 <https://code.google.com/archive/p/webapp-improved/issues/102>). It’s not clear that there is any process to submit patches (contributing on the website has no information - https://webapp-improved.appspot.com/#contribute <https://webapp-improved.appspot.com/#contribute>), there is no active mailing list / discussion forum, the bug tracker is just an archive on google code, and I can see no evidence that there is anyone other than a Google employee that can commit. So - I’ll call your bluff. Tell me how to submit a patch for the issue I pointed to and I’ll happily do so. Otherwise, please consider declaring that the project is abandoned and stop pointing people to webapp2 in App Engine documentation since it’s a dead end. Karl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/AF77E164-0058-455F-9679-87FDB89C1926%40strajillion.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.