@Oliver,
Could you (or someone else) post the design photos on the wavesandbox? (I
don't have a preview account :( )
Thx
Andrew
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Smloa,
> I could debug a C++ app right now even though I don't know how to code in
> C++. I am currently studying a Bachelor of Information Systems in New
> Zealand, and it is my intentions to come and work for Google as a Programmer
> when I leave MIT (New Zealand). I am only 17 so I have a little while to go
> yet, however I still need to have 3 years experience programming and one of
> the languages you need to know for Google is C++ (or C, forgot which). And
> since people want me to code in C++ I think that it would be in my best
> interests to do so as well, it would give me my best opportunity given my
> learning style to learn C++.
>
> I don't disagree with you, I think I will continue to code in VB.NET and
> then maybe work on the C++ with Sam in my spare time. But I don't think I
> would ignore Sam though.
>
> At the moment I can Code VB.net, some C#, HTML, Javascript, JAVA. but I
> need to know a whole heap more. and I don't learn from books, I learn from
> doing it. So Sam has unknowingly given me the best opportunity to learn how
> to code in C++.
>
> I will continue to code in VB.NET.
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Smola <callmesm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Oliver, I don't see how Sam's translating has anything to do with your
>> progress developing your app. You go on your merry way developing
>> your Windows app as your original intent implies. And if Sam chooses
>> to try and translate, then way to go for him. Whether he finishes it
>> or not or has a different GUI has no bearing on your own personal
>> progress on the app. If I were you I'd continue as if you'd never
>> heard Sam's original message and if he comes up with a translation you
>> can make decisions then.
>>
>> VB was one of my first languages too! ;D I know it's pretty easy, but
>> if you know basic logic it's not a HUGE leap to go from language to
>> language. As you expand your curiosities I think you'll find that you
>> may even prefer a different language. I started out in software
>> design but found that I preferred web development instead.
>>
>> Good luck on your app!
>>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 7:57 am, Chris Bailey <xcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > sorry for not being able to reply before. <_< not sure why it wouldn't
>> let
>> > me. but Oliver if you focus on just making a GUI even if it's in a
>> different
>> > language and make the actual getting of Wave data into it's own "core"
>> that
>> > can be replaced in the future you should be fine with leaving it as is
>> until
>> > Google releases an API
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > yes its an embedded webbrowser since I have found no other method that
>> > > works with MIT's Proxy (New Zealand MIT).
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Joe Developer <
>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > >> rar x file.rar works fine here(Debian), you may want to install
>> `unrar`
>> > >> from your package management system.
>> > >> Have a look at 'Form1.vb' :
>> > >> wbLogin.ReadyState = WebBrowserReadyState.Complete
>> >
>> > >> I wanted to attach the source in tar.gz format, but intriguingly
>> gmail
>> > >> tells me that it cannot be sent as it contains an executable.
>> >
>> > >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Sam Osborne <
>> sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com
>> > >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> Oh and can you put the source on there in a different format? Linux
>> > >>> (which I'm primarily on) can't read rars....
>> >
>> > >>> 2009/10/16 Sam Osborne <sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> > >>> Ouch. Wait, if it IS an embedded browser, and if it was made (which
>> is
>> > >>>> likely) in Visual Studio, it's an embedded IE.... Which is very
>> bad...
>> >
>> > >>>> 2009/10/16 Joe Developer <joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > >>>> From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is
>> unlikely
>> > >>>>> to work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an embedded
>> > >>>>> webbrowser to handle the handshaking with the wave site.
>> >
>> > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne <
>> > >>>>> sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>>>> Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead
>> of
>> > >>>>>> something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of
>> C++, but
>> > >>>>>> then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux
>> just needs to
>> > >>>>>> install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.
>> >
>> > >>>>>> Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?
>> >
>> > >>>>>> All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be
>> that
>> > >>>>>> bad!
>> >
>> > >>>>>> Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code
>> almost
>> > >>>>>> directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code means
>> what,
>> > >>>>>> espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the line
>> numbers up.
>> >
>> > >>>>>> For example:
>> > >>>>>> VB.net code:
>> > >>>>>> Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
>> > >>>>>> C++ code:
>> > >>>>>> Line 1: cout << "Hello";
>> > >>>>>> Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly
>> the
>> > >>>>>> same thing
>> > >>>>>> Line 1: printf("Hello");
>> >
>> > >>>>>> Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For
>> > >>>>>> Bugs, rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If
>> you're
>> > >>>>>> working your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may
>> even be able
>> > >>>>>> to fix some of them..
>> >
>> > >>>>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > >>>>>> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code,
>> remember
>> > >>>>>>> that I rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy
>> (readable) since I
>> > >>>>>>> really wasn't expecting to get this much support for the
>> project.
>> > >>>>>>> If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on
>> hold.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less
>> bugs
>> > >>>>>>> but I wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats
>> been
>> > >>>>>>> released.)
>> >
>> > >>>>>>> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release
>> this
>> > >>>>>>> in vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re -
>> written
>> > >>>>>>> to proper standards.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>> Oliver Baker
>> >
>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer <
>> > >>>>>>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker <
>> ocba...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people
>> that
>> > >>>>>>>>> I know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway
>> through, leaving me
>> > >>>>>>>>> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its
>> happened to me
>> > >>>>>>>>> before)
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> Experience can never be taken from you.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to
>> find
>> > >>>>>>>>> somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you
>> would
>> > >>>>>>>> find the gui more portable and easier to manage using something
>> like gtk+
>> > >>>>>>>> and whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python
>> or *
>> > >>>>>>>>http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
>> > >>>>>>>>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna
>> do what.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will
>> be a
>> > >>>>>>>> small shell script that gets called from something like conky
>> now and then.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Oliver Baker
>>
>>
>
> >
>
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