Hi Andrew,
Yes, I saw that.

I haven't tried it yet though.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Andrew Red <andrewr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Oliver,
> I'm sorry, but I got board, so I wrote some code to launch a window from
> the notifaction area.
>
> I posted the code on your wave (
> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BG0TCUy7kA.1
> )
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Red <andrewr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice. are you going to add the AnimateWindow function? This allows sliding
>> windows (like gtalk) and it is easy (ish) to use.
>> I got my sandbox on October 14th, and the previews were sent out on
>> October 1st (i think)...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> Here is the link to the WaveSandbox one.
>>>
>>> (You really should consult with the Google Team about why you don't have
>>> a preview account if you have a sandbox account) unless of course you are
>>> cheating the system.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BG0TCUy7kA
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BG0TCUy7kA>Have
>>> fun,
>>> Oliver Baker
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Andrew Red <andrewr...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Oliver,
>>>> Could you (or someone else) post the design photos on the wavesandbox?
>>>> (I don't have a preview account :(  )
>>>>
>>>> Thx
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Smloa,
>>>>> I could debug a C++ app right now even though I don't know how to code
>>>>> in C++. I am currently studying a Bachelor of Information Systems in New
>>>>> Zealand, and it is my intentions to come and work for Google as a 
>>>>> Programmer
>>>>> when I leave MIT (New Zealand). I am only 17 so I have a little while to 
>>>>> go
>>>>> yet, however I still need to have 3 years experience programming and one 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the languages you need to know for Google is C++ (or C, forgot which). And
>>>>> since people want me to code in C++ I think that it would be in my best
>>>>> interests to do so as well, it would give me my best opportunity given my
>>>>> learning style to learn C++.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't disagree with you, I think I will continue to code in VB.NETand 
>>>>> then maybe work on the C++ with Sam in my spare time. But I don't think
>>>>> I would ignore Sam though.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment I can Code VB.net, some C#, HTML, Javascript, JAVA. but I
>>>>> need to know a whole heap more. and I don't learn from books, I learn from
>>>>> doing it. So Sam has unknowingly given me the best opportunity to learn 
>>>>> how
>>>>> to code in C++.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will continue to code in VB.NET.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Smola <callmesm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver, I don't see how Sam's translating has anything to do with your
>>>>>> progress developing your app.  You go on your merry way developing
>>>>>> your Windows app as your original intent implies.  And if Sam chooses
>>>>>> to try and translate, then way to go for him.  Whether he finishes it
>>>>>> or not or has a different GUI has no bearing on your own personal
>>>>>> progress on the app.  If I were you I'd continue as if you'd never
>>>>>> heard Sam's original message and if he comes up with a translation you
>>>>>> can make decisions then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VB was one of my first languages too! ;D  I know it's pretty easy, but
>>>>>> if you know basic logic it's not a HUGE leap to go from language to
>>>>>> language.  As you expand your curiosities I think you'll find that you
>>>>>> may even prefer a different language.  I started out in software
>>>>>> design but found that I preferred web development instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck on your app!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 7:57 am, Chris Bailey <xcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > sorry for not being able to reply before. <_< not sure why it
>>>>>> wouldn't let
>>>>>> > me. but Oliver if you focus on just making a GUI even if it's in a
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> > language and make the actual getting of Wave data into it's own
>>>>>> "core" that
>>>>>> > can be replaced in the future you should be fine with leaving it as
>>>>>> is until
>>>>>> > Google releases an API
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > > Hi,
>>>>>> > > yes its an embedded webbrowser since I have found no other method
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> > > works with MIT's Proxy (New Zealand MIT).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Joe Developer <
>>>>>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >> rar x file.rar works fine here(Debian), you may want to install
>>>>>> `unrar`
>>>>>> > >> from your package management system.
>>>>>> > >> Have a look at 'Form1.vb' :
>>>>>> > >> wbLogin.ReadyState = WebBrowserReadyState.Complete
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >> I wanted to attach the source in tar.gz format, but intriguingly
>>>>>> gmail
>>>>>> > >> tells me that it cannot be sent as it contains an executable.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Sam Osborne <
>>>>>> sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com
>>>>>> > >> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> Oh and can you put the source on there in a different format?
>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>> > >>> (which I'm primarily on) can't read rars....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> 2009/10/16 Sam Osborne <sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> Ouch. Wait, if it IS an embedded browser, and if it was made
>>>>>> (which is
>>>>>> > >>>> likely) in Visual Studio, it's an embedded IE.... Which is very
>>>>>> bad...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> 2009/10/16 Joe Developer <joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is
>>>>>> unlikely
>>>>>> > >>>>> to work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an
>>>>>> embedded
>>>>>> > >>>>> webbrowser to handle the handshaking with the wave site.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne <
>>>>>> > >>>>> sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++,
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> > >>>>>> something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top
>>>>>> of C++, but
>>>>>> > >>>>>> then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS..
>>>>>> Linux just needs to
>>>>>> > >>>>>> install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't
>>>>>> be that
>>>>>> > >>>>>> bad!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code
>>>>>> almost
>>>>>> > >>>>>> directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code
>>>>>> means what,
>>>>>> > >>>>>> espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the
>>>>>> line numbers up.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> For example:
>>>>>> > >>>>>> VB.net code:
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
>>>>>> > >>>>>> C++ code:
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Line 1: cout << "Hello";
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does
>>>>>> exactly the
>>>>>> > >>>>>> same thing
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Line 1: printf("Hello");
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test
>>>>>> For
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Bugs, rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs..
>>>>>> If you're
>>>>>> > >>>>>> working your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you
>>>>>> may even be able
>>>>>> > >>>>>> to fix some of them..
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code,
>>>>>> remember
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> that I rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy
>>>>>> (readable) since I
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> really wasn't expecting to get this much support for the
>>>>>> project.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on
>>>>>> hold.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with
>>>>>> less bugs
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> but I wanted to put up the code used in the latest version
>>>>>> thats been
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> released.)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to
>>>>>> release this
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> in vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re -
>>>>>> written
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> to proper standards.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Oliver Baker
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>  On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker <
>>>>>> ocba...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find
>>>>>> people that
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway
>>>>>> through, leaving me
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it,
>>>>>> its happened to me
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> before)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>  Experience can never be taken from you.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have
>>>>>> to find
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think
>>>>>> you would
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> find the gui more portable and easier to manage using
>>>>>> something like gtk+
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or
>>>>>> python or *
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I will put up all the current plans for this application
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's
>>>>>> gonna do what.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version
>>>>>> will be a
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> small shell script that gets called from something like
>>>>>> conky now and then.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>  It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Oliver Baker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> >
>

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