I agree with such an opinion ; but we must keep in sight that the goal is
to be able to make booklets directly from the site. I don't think anybody
would like to have, in the same booklet, a score with *i* and *ǽ*, and
another with *j* and *aé*… This would be necessary, if we make various
versions, to agree on a naming scheme (or whatever else) that would clearly
identify the style of each score.

In my humble opinion again !


2013/5/22 pierre <[email protected]>

> Mmm, I am sorry to disagree with many of us.
> The gabc database should not be a standard of what is "good" gregorian
> score.
> It is not to "us" to decide if we must use i or j, or mass  of PAul VI or
> older one. We should remain open. "We" are a tool. Only.
> It seems to me that the only possible way is to have a gabc database as
> near as possible of each original book.
> If there are many different versions of one hymn in different books, we
> must have the correspondant entries  possible in the DB.
> The fact that the entry is filled is another question. It will be filled
> if someone fills it. But the DB should remain open.
> This could lead to a standard "de facto", if some entries are filled and
> other ones are not...
> But that should not be "by design".
> The reference to the original book seems enough to recognize various
> variants.
> And I see no problem if gabc data is more or less duplicated...
>
> Le 22/05/2013 16:58, Olivier Berten a écrit :
>
>  Well... I'm actually wondering myself... because I like to be as close
>> as possible as the source but it doesn't really make sense to me to
>> have different entries for the Graduale and the Liber versions. One
>> could argue that we should use some standardised latin (same with the
>> oe/ae/œ/æ or i/j question).
>>
>> But on the other hand the Liber gives a lot of information for people
>> less litterate in that topic which could be useful aswell: accents for
>> the people less used to the tonic accent placement in latin or noted
>> psalms for people less used to psalmody...
>>
>> I also wonder how to deal with the hymns with one different verse for
>> different occasions, or which are a port of another hymn...
>>
>> I'd love to have other peoples opinions
>>
>> 2013/5/22 Jacques Peron <[email protected]>**:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd have a question about the rules to be followed on your database.
>>
>> There are differences between editions of gregorian chants :
>> - the Graduale puts accents on words only when they have 3 or more
>> syllabes,
>> while the Liber usualis and others put accents on all accented words ;
>> - liturgical books use i in place of j after 1962, but not before ;
>> - æ is often written ae, I think because they had no easy mean to do
>> otherwise (but I can't be affirmative).
>>
>> So here is my question : is it better to follow the presentation of the
>> source in every case (but some chants can be different between different
>> sources), or to follow uniform rules ? In such a case, would it be
>> possible
>> to give those rules, for example on the Participate page ?
>>
>> Please forgive me if I made English mistakes,
>>
>> Fr. Jacques Peron.
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/24 Olivier Berten <[email protected]>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Little by little, I'm getting further in my gregorian database system.
>> There is now an editing interface. It's not very user-friendly yet but
>> my knowledge in gui conception and programming is very weak... So if
>> you want to help, I'm very open to it!
>>
>> You can also just proofread the scores and check the little "Me"
>> button under "Proofread by" (if you don't see any mistakes, of
>> course).
>>
>> For those interested, I published the source code on GitHub
>> <https://github.com/**olivierberten/GregoBase<https://github.com/olivierberten/GregoBase>>.
>> It's a mess... but if
>> you're very brave, you can have a look at it ;-)
>>
>> Olivier
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