On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Chris @ fullphat <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On Jul 7, 8:20 pm, Peter Hosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:12:01, Neal Horman wrote: > > > > > Interesting that it is a GfW spec. > > > > GfW hosts it, but it was jointly developed between us and them, with > developers of all the other notification systems of the time also present > (they were welcome to pipe up but ended up not saying much). > > > > That's generally true but we (Snarl) had our own TCP-based protocol in > place at the time and were working on support for Growl's UDP > implementation. We proposed our implementation (SNP) and were quite > strongly shouted down by the Growl team, hence we retreated to a safe > distance. > > My personal take is that GNTP is still a rather bloated protocol, > being based around a mime format rather than something more current > such as XML. Since then Snarl's own protocol has developed > significantly and will continue to with support for encryption and > mDNS on the way. > > Anyhow, we still support Growl/UDP, GNTP and our own protocol. > > I just searched my email archives, and the only other email that I have from you (besides this one) is the email you sent to Peter and myself accusing us of favoring GfW over Snarl. You conceded that you were in fact not correct. I don't remember any other contact from you guys at all. Peter doesn't and he's been on the project for years. I'll ask Rudy who has been on since 2004. Let me be clear here. We're not interested in supporting both GNTP and SNP. We've opted for GNTP, because to be honest when we were looking for a new protocol the GfW guys stepped up and I didn't hear anything from you guys about it even though I did try contacting you. Snarl has been around a very long time, and I appreciate that it's inspired by our project. That said, it is very inappropriate to essentially come to us right before release in this manner. At the very least you could have picked the correct group (development, not discuss). Like I said before in the email, when I get back to work on the website (should start next Tuesday) then I want to link to different implementations and discuss their differences in a way that makes the most sense for end users. End users don't care if there are 2 or 10 protocols, they just want it to work. GNTP works for us, so I don't see us changing. If you have a problem with it, we've all been using the development list as a sort of official discussion place for the protocol, please bring it up there. I would appreciate if you did that *after* 1.3 is released though. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Growl Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss?hl=en.
