At 23:36 27/04/2007, you wrote:
There are many images of ladies in robes, but few of
them show how the lower half of the body looks, so we
are left wondering. But I think I know of a few images
where it appears to be open in the front. However,
some may be fully closing gowns, that were simply left
open in the front, something I sometimes do when I
wear a more fitted kirtle.
Lady Burghley
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/MildredCooke1562.html
Another of the same lady
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/MildredCooke1565.html
Countess of Warwick
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/CountessWarwick.html
Countess of Sussex (I think those are short puffs
trimmed/lined in white fur, but it's hard to tell with
the tone on tone B&W image)
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1570/FrancesSidney.html
This lady is now considered in all likelihood to be Queen Elizabeth
l. According to Janet Arnold, she is standing in front of a Chair of
State. I think there may be an article in the catalogue "The Tudor
Dynasty" from which I believe your picture comes.
As to how to make those woven sleeves, the best
directions I remember seeing, was to make an under
sleeve in the shape you want, then take ribbons, or
bias cut fabrics, and weave them as you desire,
pinning them to the undersleeve, then sew them into
place along the edges. I don't know where I read that,
but it was someplace online, or maybe in a message
from a mailing list somewhere. Sorry I can't be more
specific.
There is a doublet of woven strips in Arnold, P of F 1560-1620.
Suzi
Good luck,
Kimiko
www.kimiko1.com
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am making an open robe for my Elizabethan outfit
> and wondered if
> anyone has seen short ornamental puffed sleeves on
> an open robe - I
> can only find them on the closed robes or ropas.
>
> I want to wear my elizabethan gown underneath the
> open robe, and not
> wear a loose kirtle as I've seen in some pictures -
> I wish for my
> gown to be seen clearly underneath.
>
> I would also like to make a sleeve with pieces that
> weave over and
> under in a grid pattern. Can anyone recommend the
> best way to do this?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Aylwen
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