Ann Catelli wrote:
> --- Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> few images of short over long skirts (long kirtle,
>> with short gown skirt) 
>>
>> Kimiko Small
>>     
>
> I see many images of short skirts over longer ones,
> and every one is allegorical.
>
> This doesn't count tucked-up skirts, like one of the
> maidens in the St. Nicholas illumination you cite.
>
> So, I suppose a tucked-up skirt later redrawn by one
> of the many costume historians who didn't/don't "get
> it" might show a short over long skirt arrangement not
> on a Ste., Queen, Goddess, etc..
>
> So, not "real", unless you were dressing for a real
> Masque, like Drea's Queen of the Amazons on the
> Elizabethan Costuming Page.
>
> Ann in CT
>   
Mary Tudor's lady in waiting, and the girl on the right in the St 
Nicholas picture, don't appear to be tucking up their skirts in any way.
 (In the St Nicholas, I can't tell what her hands are doing, but her 
apron is lying flat).  I'm intrigued, if this is allegorical or an 
artistic convention,
why did artists want to show shorter skirts like that?  Is it just that 
she's so poor, she's grown out of her gown ;-) ?

Jean

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