Neil, you made me crack open my Bible for the first time in ages. <lol>
Listen man, that's all very poetic and flowery but it doesn't really
mean or say anything! Anyway, I'm one of the cowards who picks and
chooses what to believe who happens to be a follower of Jesus *but* not
the Christ (Messiah) because there's absolutely no evidence that any of
it is true!
The fact that so many obviously intelligent folk believe says a lot
about us humans and how terrifying the Universe is to us. It's a pretty
daunting thing to realize that the Cosmos is an inanimate object that
doesn't have human feelings and won't swoop in to rescue us if we fuck
up. Species die all the time and most past extinctions occurred long
before Human beings evolved on this world. The world around us is a
harsh and emotionally bankrupt place where people make every possible
effort to associate human attributes. Sad to think that @ some point in
the future human beings will also cease to exist.
I'd like to think that if God is real he made the Universe into a giant
petri dish just to see what would result and I seriously doubt he gives
a Rat's ass about you and me personally. On the level of species he
might find the Human Race mildly interesting. @:D>
Neil Atwood wrote:
? You know, whether Jesus was deity or man is really irrelevant! He still
? changed the world for the better and he was exactly right about love and
? tolerance being the answer. @:D>
While I agree with your conclusion (mostly) Stan, Jesus himself didn’t allow
for the first comment (Read Matthew 11:25-28 amongst other places)
Regards
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Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia
http://westserve.org - Blog, Christianity, Coffee and Tech Stuff.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Friday, 23 December 2005 4:45 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge
It is presumptive of us to sit in judgment of Evolution when we don't
have all the facts. Remember that science is always evolving our
understanding of the way things *really* work.
You know, whether Jesus was deity or man is really irrelevant! He still
changed the world for the better and he was exactly right about love and
tolerance being the answer. @:D>
Gary VanderMolen wrote:
At 03:49 PM 22/12/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
Of course we are supposed to use the (limited) logic we have. Even
ants have logic, but can you explain the theory of relativity to an
ant?
Humans may be a little smarter than ants, but our capability to
understand things like higher dimensions is very limited.
But I've never said to an ant "Act this way, and I'll get you into
heaven." Plus we were given reason, the ability to discern between
good and evil.
And your point is...?
That your argument that one can't compare the relationship between an
ant and a human and the supposed relationship between man and god.
My argument is that the difference in intelligence level between man
and ant is at least as large as the difference between man and God.
Since it's no surprise that the ant can't understand man's designs,
so likewise it should be no surprise that man can't fully understand or
appreciate God's designs.
Saying that ants don't understand what we are doing (which is a
conclusion you have no proof of, btw) and therefore we shouldn't
expect to have any understanding of god makes no sense, and isn't an
argument.
I never said that we don't have any understanding of God.
Our understanding of him is limited, because humans are not omniscient.
It is presumptive of us to sit in judgment of God when we don't have
all the facts.
Gary VanderMolen
