thanks Tim Been removing stuff but hadn't even though of safe mode. ( my bad )
Biggest baddy is something called avsystemcare. Have gotten rid of some of the pop ups but without control panel access and add remove programs. crap. I got control panel ( registry nocontrolpanel 0 ) but it vanished again but when I had it non of the applets worked. real bad one. I'm sure my head will be sore b4 I do what I know needs to be done. :-[ thanks Fred At 10:00 AM 10/2/2007, Tim \"The Beave\" Lider Poked the stick with: >Does the computer run in safe mode? If so you can see if anything runs >there. Also, Check the Task Manager and see if there is any software >running that looks fishy (Pun intended). > >There is a lot of Spyware that locks computers down and do not let you run >certain utilities. I have seen this in the past. The funny thing is the >person who owns the computer has no idea how they got in there. > >Good luck, > >Tim "The Beave" Lider >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Laws are like sausages, it is better to not see them made