Simple answer is that those closed platforms never had the renaissance that
the Compaq initiated clone wars brought to PC's. Now we have choice and I
will bash & attack anything that wants to set us back 30 years of progress.
 On Apr 16, 2012 9:37 AM, "Francisco Tapia" <[email protected]> wrote:

> nobody is forcing you to buy apple, and osx.  While there are people who
> pick up white box machines, there are countless more that pickup the
> HP/Dells.  Only when you are buying a white box machine do you get a choice
> to not install any OS and do it yourself at home.  I don't understand why
> it's bad that Apple controls their hardware and software.  Nobody complains
> that you can't run a nintendo os on a sony psp hardware, or vice versa.  If
> I buy a Dell I know I am buying into windows. at least it's not a straight
> forward way to purchase ubuntu i7 laptops.  I just checked. so while I
> "CAN" go out of my way to download ubuntu, and install.  I can't just
> receive my shiny new laptop open it up and login, and proceed to dump my
> photos, videos and music into it. I have to first do the wipe/install :-/
> thats not tough, but I have to wait I want to use my new shiny laptop
> now... :)
>
> I've enjoyed the back and forth in this thread, mostly because I was all
> anti-Apple a few years ago.
>
> for the arguments that Apple is a bully and that they don't play fair with
> their licensing, well... is it a requirement that all companies license
> their patents to anyone?  I do agree that competition is a healthy way to
> get newer better results for the end user.  But does that mean that you
> have to license off your advantage?  You can hate apple or samsung all you
> want for playing the patent game, but the real issue is the uspto, unless
> we keep writing to our representatives to get this fixed asap! nothing will
> ever change.
>
> the uspto is what fosters this idea that i can patent a door and from now
> on anyone who has a door on their home or place of business must pay
> damages because they didn't license the door from me, with ignorance to
> previous art.
>
> also I'm glad that the amazon kindle fire argument was brought up, and it
> does help support the walled garden mentality.  People are buying more
> kindle fires with the easy access to the amazon store than any other
> android tablet because it fosters this mentality of safe purchasing within
> the walled garden. make of it as you will...
>
> -Francisco
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> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 21:09, Joshua MacCraw <[email protected]> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >
> > No love lost here, I really dislike Microsoft and many other PC industry
> > giants for how they play ball BUT at least they aren't forcing me to use
> > windows nor dictating who I can buy hardware from (yet).
> >
> </snip>
>

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