Okay, I'm not sure what email your reading but you're really going off the
deep end here.

First and foremost I am a consumer and most of my arguments are from that
point of view.

At the time compaq did this because it would help them get market share,
it's ultimately also helped pc users.  I pointed it out to give you some
point of reference as to why PC users are a little more picky about letting
things get closed up again versus say a mac user or some game console user.

Again I say a reasonable, logical person would of caught on in the previous
posts. Stop being so reactionary read and process what I'm saying before
you go putting words in my mouth.
On Apr 18, 2012 8:24 AM, "Francisco Tapia" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> so you should run your business in a manner to help your consumers, but
> kill your business?
>
> if that is the case are you referring your customers to a lower cost
> competitor of yours, who provides support 24/7 on their pc's?
>
>
>
> -Francisco
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 19:32, Joshua MacCraw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Compaq? Who cares what became of compaq! I was referring to how much
better
> > off consumers were because what compaq did to open the market up & give
us
> > more choices.
> >
> > Funny, a half way logical  reasonable person would've gotten that point.
> > On Apr 16, 2012 12:41 PM, "Francisco Tapia" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > and look how well that worked out for Compaq.  it's effectively gone,
> > > someday HP will retire the name completely
> > >
> > >
> > > -Francisco
> > > http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> > >  <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:27, Joshua MacCraw <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Simple answer is that those closed platforms never had the
renaissance
> > > that
> > > > the Compaq initiated clone wars brought to PC's. Now we have choice
> > and I
> > > > will bash & attack anything that wants to set us back 30 years of
> > > progress.
> > > >  On Apr 16, 2012 9:37 AM, "Francisco Tapia" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > nobody is forcing you to buy apple, and osx.  While there are
people
> > > who
> > > > > pick up white box machines, there are countless more that pickup
the
> > > > > HP/Dells.  Only when you are buying a white box machine do you
get a
> > > > choice
> > > > > to not install any OS and do it yourself at home.  I don't
understand
> > > why
> > > > > it's bad that Apple controls their hardware and software.  Nobody
> > > > complains
> > > > > that you can't run a nintendo os on a sony psp hardware, or vice
> > versa.
> > > >  If
> > > > > I buy a Dell I know I am buying into windows. at least it's not a
> > > > straight
> > > > > forward way to purchase ubuntu i7 laptops.  I just checked. so
while
> > I
> > > > > "CAN" go out of my way to download ubuntu, and install.  I can't
just
> > > > > receive my shiny new laptop open it up and login, and proceed to
dump
> > > my
> > > > > photos, videos and music into it. I have to first do the
wipe/install
> > > :-/
> > > > > thats not tough, but I have to wait I want to use my new shiny
laptop
> > > > > now... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I've enjoyed the back and forth in this thread, mostly because I
was
> > > all
> > > > > anti-Apple a few years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > for the arguments that Apple is a bully and that they don't play
fair
> > > > with
> > > > > their licensing, well... is it a requirement that all companies
> > license
> > > > > their patents to anyone?  I do agree that competition is a healthy
> > way
> > > to
> > > > > get newer better results for the end user.  But does that mean
that
> > you
> > > > > have to license off your advantage?  You can hate apple or samsung
> > all
> > > > you
> > > > > want for playing the patent game, but the real issue is the uspto,
> > > unless
> > > > > we keep writing to our representatives to get this fixed asap!
> > nothing
> > > > will
> > > > > ever change.
> > > > >
> > > > > the uspto is what fosters this idea that i can patent a door and
from
> > > now
> > > > > on anyone who has a door on their home or place of business must
pay
> > > > > damages because they didn't license the door from me, with
ignorance
> > to
> > > > > previous art.
> > > > >
> > > > > also I'm glad that the amazon kindle fire argument was brought up,
> > and
> > > it
> > > > > does help support the walled garden mentality.  People are buying
> > more
> > > > > kindle fires with the easy access to the amazon store than any
other
> > > > > android tablet because it fosters this mentality of safe
purchasing
> > > > within
> > > > > the walled garden. make of it as you will...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Francisco
> > > > > http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> > > > > <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 21:09, Joshua MacCraw <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No love lost here, I really dislike Microsoft and many other PC
> > > > industry
> > > > > > giants for how they play ball BUT at least they aren't forcing
me
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > windows nor dictating who I can buy hardware from (yet).
> > > > > >
> > > > > </snip>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >

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