Hi !
 i also posted this document on 
 http://usmanbashir.blogspot.com/
 regards, 
usman

 On 8/11/05, usman bashir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Hi jeff!
>  though it is not particularly related with harmony project activities, 
> actually it was a document about the introduction of harmony here in 
> pakistan. I posted it over the mailing list so that every one can review it 
> and correct me if i had missed some thing or had gone in wrong direction. 
>  i would appriciate the help of every one. certainly i am hoping to get 
> good support for harmony after the presentation inshallah.
>  i am again posting the link where i have posted for you people to review.
>  http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/
>  urgent response is highly appriciated as i have one more day now to 
> finalize it.
> regards,
> usman
>  On 8/11/05, Jeffrey McManigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've been following the Harmony project for some time now. Basically 
> > I've been looking for some way to contribute. Do I under the request below 
> > that you want someone to proof read this document? If so, where do you want 
> > the review posted? Thanks 
> > 
> > Jeff McManigal
> > I/S Engineer
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: usman bashir<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto: 
> > harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 08:09
> > Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
> > 
> > 
> > Hi!
> > i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the 
> > following address
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa>
> > regards, 
> > usman
> > 
> > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it. 
> > >
> > > geir
> > >
> > > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > >
> > > > :)
> > > > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> > > > though i
> > > > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to 
> > > > post
> > > > them there.
> > > > can i post it to my blog then ??
> > > >
> > > > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
> > > > PROTECTED]>> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi every one!
> > > >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for 
> > the
> > > >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan. 
> > > >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> > > >>> suggest me
> > > >>> some changes if required.
> > > >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to 
> > > >>> others, so
> > > >>> they can view it.
> > > >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> > > >>> from you
> > > >>> people.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> thnx leo!
> > > >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> > > >>>> community
> > > >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and 
> > presentation 
> > > >>>> i will
> > > >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help 
> > not
> > > >>>> only me
> > > >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other 
> > > >>>> presentation for any
> > > >>>> one.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> hi!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi!
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> > > >>>>>> paper
> > > >>>>>> 
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> about
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a 
> > 
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> conference
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
> > > >>>>>> to ask
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> that if
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> > > >>>>>> to you
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> > > >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the 
> > > >>>>>> people
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> here
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> > > >>>>>> i am
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> just
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> asking a permission of you people. 
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> > > >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest 
> > 
> > > >>>>> you get
> > > >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> > > >>>>> suggestions.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache 
> > > >>>>> Harmony"
> > > >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> > > >>>>> different if
> > > >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you 
> > 
> > > >>>>> were an
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
> > > >>>>> something
> > > >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-) 
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're 
> > probably
> > > >>>>> going
> > > >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a 
> > > >>>>> part of
> > > >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
> > > >>>>> assumption
> > > >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer. 
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> cheers,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Leo
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Usman Bashir
> > > >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer 
> > > >>>> Certified UML Developer
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
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> > > >>>> Software engineer IT24
> > > >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Usman Bashir
> > > >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > >>> Certified UML Developer 
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP) 
> > > >>> Software engineer IT24
> > > >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 
> > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Usman Bashir
> > > > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > > Certified UML Developer
> > > > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP) 
> > > > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > > Software engineer IT24
> > > > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > Certified UML Developer
> > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional 
> > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > Software engineer IT24
> > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer 
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional 
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP) 
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore 
> 



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Usman Bashir
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Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
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Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
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