On 2/16/06, Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We need to find the tab-browsing-equivalent of a JVM ;-)
It's simple, Google should make one of their apps a cross-platform, Swing based java one. Google, unlike Sun, will then have the marketing power to convince vendors to preload a java VM on their systems. Issue solved. Microsoft can get away with the huge bloated .Net runtime just because they ship it with newer Windows versions. Otherwise nobody would donwload it.... I'm still scratching my bald head thinking why hasn't Google embraced desktop java yet. Google Talk would be a killer app written in Swing / 100% Pure Java. H*ck, there's even a pure-java mpeg4 implementation.... ==================== "Open source streaming media in Java™ MediaFrame is an Open Source <http://mediaframe.org/#opensource> streaming media platform in Java™ which provides a fast, easy to implement and extremely small applet that enables over 97% (AdShadow<http://adshadow.com/>2002-03) of web users to view your audio/video content without having to rely on external player applications or bulky plug-ins. MediaFrame does not require special servers, software or programming knowledge (feature list <http://mediaframe.org/#features>). MediaFrame is based on open standards and is compatible with Mpeg (Mpeg-1 & Mpeg-4), the industry standard in video compression. This enables users to create MediaFrame ready content in any number of applications, from Adobe AfterEffects to Media Cleaner. MediaFrame is feature complete for Mpeg-1 and in Beta release for Mpeg-4. Both the Mpeg-1 & Mpeg-4 versions of MediaFrame are availble for download now, along with source code, documentation and sample video.". MediaFrame is* dual license software*. Under this model, users may choose to use MediaFrame under the free software/open source GNU General Public License (commonly known as the "GPL") or under a commercial license. ==================== Google Plans to add video to Google Talk http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,16554205%5E24170%5E%5Enbv%5E24169,00.html Btw: Pretty impressive things can be done with JDIC, things that make Java desktop apps look and feel like native code: minimize to windows systray (o Gnome panel on Linux), call the system's default web browser, and more. See: https://jdic.dev.java.net/ One killer example of today=B4s desktop java technology is Azureus, the bittorrent client (http://azureus.sourceforge.net). Just my $0.02 FC -- "Hay dos caminos claros para mí: la creatividad o el ridículo" Adolfo Castelo (1940-2004)
