I may be a bit naïve in regards to such things, but would it be possible to
create our own stripped down compiler package? My thought is that we could
just checkout the appropriate JDT code from Eclipse's CVS server, build only
the classes necessary and create a wee JAR.

I'm guessing that the big concern would be legal ramifications, but I'm not
familiar enough with the various licenses to know.

Obviously this puts Harmony in the business of managing more stuff, but it
might help things out in the short-term. Perhaps such an example could be
posted to Eclipse with a bug to help the cause.

-Nathan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:32 AM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >> There was actually zero sarcasm intended there.  I was just hoping to
> >> get your attention.  I've used this format effectively w/ the JCP as
> >> well. :)
> >>
> >> The only comment that I thought might get taken the wrong way was the
> >> "bloat" comment, but from the perspective of being interested in
> getting
> >> the java compiler and getting in a 100MB download....
> >
> > Getting the compiler stand-alone would be the ideal, but as Mark points
> > out, if it doesn't work out you can also get the same thing via
> > Eclipse's 19Mb JDT binary download.
> 
> That certainly is an improvement...
> 
> geir
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >> So - can we get the Java compiler hosted officially somewhere?  Right
> >> now, for the harmony classlib, we ask people to dig it out of the
> >> eclipse distro, and the contributed build script for the new VM from
> >> Intel does that same thing automatically.  Lots of extra bits floating
> >> through the internets...
> >>
> >> I think it would also assist adoption - it would make it easier for
> >> other projects to use it via ant or maven jar fetches.
> >>
> >> Of course, if it is already that way somewhere, and I'm just clueless,
> I
> >> deserve whatever drubbing you can aim my way :)
> >>
> >> thx
> >>
> >> geir
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike Milinkovich wrote:
> >>> I've tried parsing the prayer a few times to delete the sarcasm and
> >>> understand exactly what you're asking for, but as with most prayers,
> the
> >>> language appears to be imprecise.
> >>>
> >>> What *exactly* is it that you're looking for?
> >>> Mike Milinkovich
> >>> Executive Director,
> >>> Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
> >>> Office: 613-224-9461 x228
> >>> Cell: 613-220-3223
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> blog: http://milinkovich.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 4, 2006
> >>>> 7:07 AM
> >>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation
> >>>>
> >>>> Seriously, anyone have any contacts there?  (Church of Eclipse, not
> >>>> billygraham...)
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike, are you around? :)
> >>>>
> >>>> geir
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
> >>>>> Dear Harmony Project,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you are on the wrong mailing list, please try
> >>>>> www.billygraham.org  (or whatever your personal preference).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Tim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >>>>>> Oh Mighty Eclipse Foundation,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thou art soest bountiful, we praise your munificence,
> >>>> especially that
> >>>>>> which compiles the java.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We beseech thee, in thy mercy, to offer to your lowly
> >>>> servants that
> >>>>>> which we covet alone in it's beauty, without thy holy bloat, for
> >>>>>> while that which wraps the compiler of java nourishes
> >>>> those without
> >>>>>> the divine IDEA, we do not deserveth such goodness, nor have the
> >>>>>> richness of time or heavenly bandwidth.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We ask this humbly, and with averted gaze as befitting our station.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Harmony Project
> >>>>>>
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