Pavel, I see no attachment.. ?

On 10/23/06, Pavel Afremov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi



I've developed two "impossible" tests, which shows "fake" circularity
errors. One test is more simple and use SecurityManager. The other is a bit
more complex and uses custom ClassLoader. You can find them in attachment.



Thanks.

Pavel Afremov


On 10/17/06, Pavel Pervov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The scenario I described earlier is impossible. Resolution of any class
> referenced in some other class is performed by class loader, which
> loaded
> that other class. So, no chance to load "A" and referencing class loader
> (UCL) with this UCL.
>
> Sorry for confusion.
>
> Regards,
>    Pavel.
>
> P.S. Still there are concerns why lazy resolution should be supported by
>
> JITs. But it is absolutely another story.
>
> On 10/17/06, Mikhail Fursov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > IMO we shall be between BEA and SUN: to work if both RI work, to fail
> if
> > both RI fail and discuss each test in details if only one RI passes.
> >
> > On 10/17/06, Gregory Shimansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday 13 October 2006 08:04 Alexey Varlamov wrote:
> > > > I'm curious, if we enable "controlled" recursion in classloading -
> > > > will it resolve this kind of issues completely? I'm pretty sure it
> > > > would resolve at least some scenarios - like the one Pavel
> described
> > > > for gc.Finalizers or a case of classloading initiated within
> > > > SecurityManager.checkPermission() which we also faced not once.
> > > > "Controlled" recursion here means counting depth of recursion and
> > > > allowing at least 1 recursive iteration. I've seen some tricks in
> > > > URLClassLoader which assume such ability, but they do not work
> with
> > > > DRLVM.
> > >
> > > I think it is different. URLClassLoader is system class which is
> loaded
> > by
> > > bootstrap, so no recursion happens for classes which it itself
> requires
> > to
> > > be
> > > loaded when it is being compiled.
> > >
> > > > For the pure user code scenario Pavel suggested above, there may
> be
> > > > some nuances leading to truly endless recursion, but still we need
> to
> > > > look at particular test first.
> > >
> > > It is not endless but it is definitely more than 1 level deep. If
> user
> > > sets up
> > > his own class loaders, compiling them may trigger loading some of
> the
> > user
> > > classes which are in turn loaded by class loaders set up by user.
> Shall
> > we
> > > then throw "NoClassDefFoundError: Class loading recursion limit
> reached.
> > > Please rewrite your code"? :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gregory Shimansky, Intel Middleware Products Division
> > >
> > >
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