Yes, Marlene, that's correct because the Haggadah is a liturgical work not a 
sacred work. Per LC's SHM 1435, the subdivision Commentaries only applies to 
sacred works not religious works.

The Written (i.e., Tanakh) and Oral (i.e., Mishnah and Gemara [together, the 
Talmud]) Torah would be considered "sacred works" for the purposes of applying 
SHM and RDA. The rest, including the Zohar, Midrash, commentaries, codes, 
liturgies (incl. Haggadah), etc., are all considered "religious works" as 
opposed to "sacred works".

I caution against Bob's "do what you feel" approach in cataloging. For 
libraries, that would spell chaos and only be a disservice to patrons.

From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Marlene Schiffman 
via Heb-naco
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 12:00 PM
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I might be like Haggadah which does not take "Commentaries." Only bible and 
Talmud do. That was my understanding.

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
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From: Heb-naco 
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I think this is a great question, and probably the fruit of applying an 
anglocentric category to a body of literature that doesn't match. We should 
consider if anything we call sifre kodesh is actually a sacred text in the 
spirit of the LC category.

That said, even inside of the sphere of sifre kodesh, I think that the Zohar is 
major, called Zohar ha-kadosh, which is a qualificative we don't find applied 
to many other rabbinic works. This brings me to the question: what else is 
Sacred Texts in our cannon? Other than the Tanakh, should we include the Talmud 
(Mishnah, Tosefta?)? I wouldn't include the midrash as a number of rishonim, 
like Duran, consider it to be holy, yet "not to be taken literally." Yet, the 
Zohar is midrashic in nature. It's all a conundrum. If people are interested, 
perhaps we can talk more about that in our RAS Cataloging Summer meeting, since 
the Winter's agenda is already quite full.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:47 PM Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco 
<heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a question: for purposes of correct application of LC Subject Heading 
Manual and RDA, is the Zohar considered a Sacred work.

Thanks , Heidi


Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

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