Did you happen to get the melting point for red dap contact cement?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Frank Heasley <drheas...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just did a quick test on the HK velcro using a heat gun and infrared > surface temp meter. At 100oF, the adhesive melts. > > Note, however, that they also sell the same material without the adhesive > backing, which would allow you to use a different kind of glue. > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Hunter <neversph...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We used contact cement to connect the vinyl to the Velcro. I second using >> bidi tape for the permanent joints. >> On Aug 5, 2014 8:49 AM, "Joshua Slocum" <jfslo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, there are several places on the internet that sell adhesive backed >>> velcro. However from what I can tell, most of them don't fare so well >>> against heat, so I'd be concerned about them coming off in a strong wind or >>> during takedown. >>> >>> I'm still trying to figure out a mechanical solution. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Frank Heasley <drheas...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You can get velcro that has a strong adhesive backing in 75mm wide >>>> strips, from www.hobbyking.com (US Warehouse). It's only $2.74 per >>>> meter. It is very strong, and grabs really well. >>>> >>>> Their US warehouse ships via USPS, and rather quickly. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Joshua Slocum <jfslo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some pics from our build-session on Sunday: >>>>> >>>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7krB_7bUPTNMmo4UUxrZ0I4REE&usp=sharing >>>>> >>>>> All the gluing is quite a bit of work, and velcro is expensive. As >>>>> I've been building I've been thinking about how to make the whole process >>>>> easier and cheaper if anyone else decides to make one. >>>>> - for velcro seams, use 4" wide velcro strips rather than sewing >>>>> velcro to fabric - eliminates sewing time; costs slightly less. >>>>> - use bi-filament tape for non-detachable seams. Just be sure to foil >>>>> tape any exposed bf tape. Should cost a bit less, and be a bit quicker >>>>> than >>>>> making seams with glue and fabric. >>>>> - I also think using 8' of velcro on either side of the seam for >>>>> anchors may have been overkill. If I were to make another one of these, >>>>> I'd >>>>> probably use just half that amount. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Joshua Slocum <jfslo...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We just had our first gluing session on wednesday. This sunday we're >>>>>> hoping to do the lion's share of the gluing. I'll be sure to take some >>>>>> pictures. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sewing is nearly complete - only the anchors still need to be done. >>>>>> They are long strips of cordura with velcro sewn on - one end terminates >>>>>> in >>>>>> a webbing loop where tow straps can pass through and attach to playa >>>>>> staples. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Austin Desautels <adesa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh, I'm attempting the very same thing, though I can't begin >>>>>>> construction for another two weeks - would be great to hear/see how it >>>>>>> goes >>>>>>> for you! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 7:30:38 PM UTC+2, Joshua Slocum wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You've inspired me to build my own cordura/velcro yurt (H12). I'm >>>>>>>> attempting to make it 100% reusable: no bi-filament tape. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to make a semi-folding yurt, with hinges made out of >>>>>>>> cordura and barge glue. >>>>>>>> The seams on the dome and walls will be done with cordura + velcro, >>>>>>>> similar to Alexander's design. >>>>>>>> The tarp will be attached to the walls with velcro on the inside, >>>>>>>> to keep dust and water out. >>>>>>>> Tie-down straps will be made with cordura strips that attach to the >>>>>>>> dome with velcro; the ends will have a sewn loop reinforced with nylon >>>>>>>> webbing for standard tow-straps and playa staples to stake it down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll try to post build pics/updates as I'm going along, in case >>>>>>>> anyone is interested or wants to replicate it later. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 10:25:32 AM UTC-5, Alexander Griffin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:21:11 PM UTC-5, Robert Atkins wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:58:05 PM UTC+1, Alexander >>>>>>>>>> Griffin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Here's pictures of WolfYurt 2.0 -- my H12 standard hexayurt >>>>>>>>>> made with velcro and cordura >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The way the roof cone "flaps" attach to the wall sections, aren't >>>>>>>>>> you losing the structural integrity granted by having an unbroken >>>>>>>>>> tension >>>>>>>>>> band going around the top of the walls? I thought this was important. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't see why there needs to be a tension band at the top of the >>>>>>>>> walls ("eaves"). The walls are held together firmly in a circle by a >>>>>>>>> combination of hinges and velcro seals. It is not going to expand >>>>>>>>> apart on >>>>>>>>> its own any more than a fully taped yurt. The roof cone itself is >>>>>>>>> held >>>>>>>>> together with the same tension points as any traditional taped yurt. >>>>>>>>> Can >>>>>>>>> you explain to me why you think a constant ring of unbroken tape is >>>>>>>>> needed >>>>>>>>> to keep a yurt erect? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see >>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>> from an intuitive perspective or in practice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You could get this back by sticking your Velcro hook tape around >>>>>>>>>> the top of the wall panels and the bottom of the roof panels, then >>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>> the loops sewn to one long ribbon of cordura that went all the way >>>>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>>>> (and then stuck to itself at the end/start with another little patch >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> hook and loop on the outside.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't ever want velcro seals at the bottom of the roof cone. If >>>>>>>>> water runs down the roof it will get under the velcro seal and then >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> the yurt. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, your roof folds into six separate "chunks"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, two separate sections. Each section is made of six >>>>>>>>> triangles, which include a combination of standard and bifolded >>>>>>>>> beveled >>>>>>>>> hinges using BiDi tape. There are only two velcro seams attaching >>>>>>>>> the roof >>>>>>>>> cone sections to each other, as seen in blue in the photos. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --Wolf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>> the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hexayurt/2QRUl3txk-8/unsubscribe. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hexayurt/2QRUl3txk-8/unsubscribe. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hexayurt/2QRUl3txk-8/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "hexayurt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hexayurt/2QRUl3txk-8/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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