Will you guys PLEASE stop talking about USING the source for your own
benefits, in ANY way? This is *NOT* the place to be discussing this,
it's been said before. Do you have ANY sense of tact???

-omega
http://www.frontline2.com


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manip
Sent: October 4, 2003 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] RE: RELEASE HL2 ASAP TO MINIMISE THE DAMAGE ?

Someone said to me that the Havok engine *isn't* actually in the leaked
source... only the links into it.... I have yet to confirm this and will
tell you when / if I do.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Leise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] RE: RELEASE HL2 ASAP TO MINIMISE THE DAMAGE ?


> I agree that - besides the other things i mentioned before (cheat
coders
etc.) - the physics code is the most interesting part of Half-Life 2. It
is
a rather new concept and it is the merged brain power of Valve and the
*coughavocough* team that made the physics system in the first place.
> Now it is easy to write a stunning game engine with a high performance
physics engine :/
>
> OFF-TOPIC: I am not a HL-coder, but I find this a good source to ask
if a
certain feature could be implemented into mod code so I can ask my
favorite
mod coder to implement it, or just to get info about the engine limits
when
creating models/maps. And finally this is a good source for general
information from Valve as well as the mod coding scene. Suddenly you
know
what the mod coders are doing right now. New bod codes, solving problems
with steam (as in case of Natural Selection). I just like to be better
informed and up to date than I would be with the info that is posted on
mods
web sites. I am a hobby coder though - mainly tools - so it is not that
I
wouldn't understand a word :)
>
> Am Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:57:35 -0700 hat Kevin Gerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
geschrieben:
>
> > Stupid question...
> >
> > How many non-coders are on this list anyway? And why?
> >
> > Sorry, just looking to change the subject ^^
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cale 'Mazor' Dunlap
> >> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 19:25
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: [hlcoders] RE: RELEASE HL2 ASAP TO MINIMISE THE DAMAGE
?
> >>
> >> Even if you got the code, it wouldn't do you any good if you're not
a
> >> coder. Even if you could just compile it, it's not like you could
run
> >> it. I really don't see the big deal, but maybe I'm missing
something.
> >> Putting identity codes in applications is what I'm planning on
doing
for
> >> a project I'm working on. It didn't sound like a bad idea, so I'm
gonna
> >> give it a shot.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashley
> >> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:27 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: [hlcoders] RE: RELEASE HL2 ASAP TO MINIMISE THE DAMAGE ?
> >>
> >>
> >> In reply to someone who said my idea of inserting 'identity' code
into
> >> pre-release testing code was silly ... i agree, sorry, i'm not a
coder
> >> so i
> >> don't immediately think of the obvious flaws in my brainwaves  ;)
> >>
> >> As for the sad situation with HL2 code being released into the
public
> >> domain, can Valve not push HL2 out ASAP to minimise the damage done
to
> >> the
> >> HL2 product?
> >>
> >> In all honesty I am so glad I am off ADSL at the moment and stuck
with
> >> 56k
> >> modem, because the temptation to grab the code would be too great.
We've
> >> been waiting for this game for so long it hurts. My sympathy is
with
all
> >> the
> >> team that worked so hard to bring us what we wanted, and I hope the
> >> losers
> >> that did this get caught.
>
>
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