I want enemy behavior to react to voice so client side only isn't enough.
Thank you all for the help.
Nick, I actually had a phone interview with valve in the last few months
and asked directly about their poor support for source engine. The response
I got came down to they aren't interested in sinking a lot of resources to
compete with Unreal and Unity and the other major game engines. Clearly
someone internally has done the math and the cost of of development and
upkeep on the sdk must have worse returns compared with putting the dev
time elsewhere. I didn't get the job, not enough experience, but it was a
great conversation and I have the utmost respect for them. It just sucks
for the modders that we aren't getting the support we want.


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Nick <xnicho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I blame valve a great deal for this. I understand Valve is basing the
> entire hopes of the company on steam distribution/DRM. I still believe
> valve should not be so quick to abandon the roots of what has always made
> it money, modding and the vast amount of games that will be made FOR THEIR
> ENGINE!
>
> Valve, open up source engine modding more, make hammer map editor open
> source, allow source mods to run on linux.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Jed <j...@wunderboy.org> wrote:
>
>> Neico pretty much nailed what I was in the process of writing.
>>
>> At least back in the EP1 code base there was still code to handle the
>> original HL1 method of moving the player model mouths based on the
>> amplitude of the input audio. It basically moved a controller bone alone a
>> defined axis based on the volume making the jaw "flap". It's in the code
>> base for the HL1:Source port.
>>
>> I used it myself and got the mouths of HL2 player models to move based on
>> the in-game voice volume so the code is still "valid".
>>
>> I'd start looking there at the code that controls the jaw and look at
>> where to pull the amplitude out (a normalised value).
>>
>> // Jed
>>
>>
>> On 8 May 2013 10:40, Neico <ad...@neic0.de> wrote:
>>
>>>  You're only able to get which player is currently speaking by
>>> pPlayer->IsSpeaking() was the function I believe, for the waveforms, they
>>> are hidden behind an internal engine interface which you can't access under
>>> normal ways (if one got trough that feel free to write it down here), but
>>> I've been mimicing it by using random (the following code is taken from
>>> Garry's Lua code for moving the player's mouth and turned into C++ Code
>>> with a working solution), also note that this is client side code (I use it
>>> in CHL2MPPlayerAnimState::Update in case you want to know):
>>>
>>>     if( m_fVoiceTimeout >= gpGlobals->curtime ) return;
>>>     // If we had access to the volume or waveforms from the player one
>>> could replace the following line to use that instead of a Random Float, but
>>> this is as close as it'll get
>>>     if( GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsPlayerSpeaking( pHL2MPPlayer->entindex()
>>> ) || ( pHL2MPPlayer->IsLocalPlayer() &&
>>> GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsLocalPlayerSpeaking() ) ) m_fVoice = (
>>> random->RandomFloat( 0.1f, 1.0f ) / m_fVoice );
>>>
>>>     LocalFlexController_t iFlexNum =
>>> pHL2MPPlayer->GetNumFlexControllers();
>>>     if( --iFlexNum <= 0 ) return;
>>>
>>>     for( LocalFlexController_t i = LocalFlexController_t( 0 ); i <
>>> iFlexNum; i++ )
>>>     {
>>>         const char* szName = pHL2MPPlayer->GetFlexControllerName( i );
>>>
>>>         if( !V_strcmp( szName, "jaw_drop" ) || !V_strcmp( szName,
>>> "right_part" ) || !V_strcmp( szName, "left_part" ) || !V_strcmp( szName,
>>> "right_mouth_drop" ) || !V_strcmp( szName, "left_mouth_drop" )  )
>>>         {
>>>             if( GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsPlayerSpeaking(
>>> pHL2MPPlayer->entindex() ) || ( pHL2MPPlayer->IsLocalPlayer() &&
>>> GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsLocalPlayerSpeaking() ) )
>>> pHL2MPPlayer->SetFlexWeight( i, clamp( m_fVoice * 2, 0, 2 ) );
>>>             else pHL2MPPlayer->SetFlexWeight( i, 0 );
>>>         }
>>>     }
>>>
>>>     m_fVoiceTimeout = gpGlobals->curtime + 0.2f;
>>>
>>> I hope this helps you figure out how to do whatever you're trying to
>>> archive
>>>
>>> On 08.05.2013 10:23, Garry Newman wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think it's exposed to modders. I had to add engine code to get
>>> it in G(arry's )Mod.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Jesse F <jesf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was hoping someone might be able to help me out. I'd like access to
>>>> info about the waveforms sent by people using in game voice. I'd mainly
>>>> like to know how loud they are speaking (or some similar average value) and
>>>> I'd like to be able to keep a list updated with which players are speaking.
>>>> My initial search through the code for this functionality didn't turn up
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> Jesse
>>>>
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