Well that’s old news really. Guess this is the most official it’ll ever be.
If only Valve would release the source code for the tools. Yeah sure it could
be recreated but surely that time is better spend on making actual mods.
- ScarT
From: Jesse F
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:44 PM
To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
I want enemy behavior to react to voice so client side only isn't enough. Thank
you all for the help.
Nick, I actually had a phone interview with valve in the last few months and
asked directly about their poor support for source engine. The response I got
came down to they aren't interested in sinking a lot of resources to compete
with Unreal and Unity and the other major game engines. Clearly someone
internally has done the math and the cost of of development and upkeep on the
sdk must have worse returns compared with putting the dev time elsewhere. I
didn't get the job, not enough experience, but it was a great conversation and
I have the utmost respect for them. It just sucks for the modders that we
aren't getting the support we want.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Nick <xnicho...@gmail.com> wrote:
I blame valve a great deal for this. I understand Valve is basing the entire
hopes of the company on steam distribution/DRM. I still believe valve should
not be so quick to abandon the roots of what has always made it money, modding
and the vast amount of games that will be made FOR THEIR ENGINE!
Valve, open up source engine modding more, make hammer map editor open source,
allow source mods to run on linux.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Jed <j...@wunderboy.org> wrote:
Neico pretty much nailed what I was in the process of writing.
At least back in the EP1 code base there was still code to handle the original
HL1 method of moving the player model mouths based on the amplitude of the
input audio. It basically moved a controller bone alone a defined axis based on
the volume making the jaw "flap". It's in the code base for the HL1:Source port.
I used it myself and got the mouths of HL2 player models to move based on the
in-game voice volume so the code is still "valid".
I'd start looking there at the code that controls the jaw and look at where to
pull the amplitude out (a normalised value).
// Jed
On 8 May 2013 10:40, Neico <ad...@neic0.de> wrote:
You're only able to get which player is currently speaking by
pPlayer->IsSpeaking() was the function I believe, for the waveforms, they are
hidden behind an internal engine interface which you can't access under normal
ways (if one got trough that feel free to write it down here), but I've been
mimicing it by using random (the following code is taken from Garry's Lua code
for moving the player's mouth and turned into C++ Code with a working
solution), also note that this is client side code (I use it in
CHL2MPPlayerAnimState::Update in case you want to know):
if( m_fVoiceTimeout >= gpGlobals->curtime ) return;
// If we had access to the volume or waveforms from the player one could
replace the following line to use that instead of a Random Float, but this is
as close as it'll get
if( GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsPlayerSpeaking( pHL2MPPlayer->entindex() ) || (
pHL2MPPlayer->IsLocalPlayer() && GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsLocalPlayerSpeaking() )
) m_fVoice = ( random->RandomFloat( 0.1f, 1.0f ) / m_fVoice );
LocalFlexController_t iFlexNum = pHL2MPPlayer->GetNumFlexControllers();
if( --iFlexNum <= 0 ) return;
for( LocalFlexController_t i = LocalFlexController_t( 0 ); i < iFlexNum;
i++ )
{
const char* szName = pHL2MPPlayer->GetFlexControllerName( i );
if( !V_strcmp( szName, "jaw_drop" ) || !V_strcmp( szName, "right_part"
) || !V_strcmp( szName, "left_part" ) || !V_strcmp( szName, "right_mouth_drop"
) || !V_strcmp( szName, "left_mouth_drop" ) )
{
if( GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsPlayerSpeaking( pHL2MPPlayer->entindex()
) || ( pHL2MPPlayer->IsLocalPlayer() &&
GetClientVoiceMgr()->IsLocalPlayerSpeaking() ) ) pHL2MPPlayer->SetFlexWeight(
i, clamp( m_fVoice * 2, 0, 2 ) );
else pHL2MPPlayer->SetFlexWeight( i, 0 );
}
}
m_fVoiceTimeout = gpGlobals->curtime + 0.2f;
I hope this helps you figure out how to do whatever you're trying to archive
On 08.05.2013 10:23, Garry Newman wrote:
I don't think it's exposed to modders. I had to add engine code to get it in
G(arry's )Mod.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Jesse F <jesf...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was hoping someone might be able to help me out. I'd like access to info
about the waveforms sent by people using in game voice. I'd mainly like to know
how loud they are speaking (or some similar average value) and I'd like to be
able to keep a list updated with which players are speaking. My initial search
through the code for this functionality didn't turn up much.
--
Jesse
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