I have been running a Windows based server for some time, and have been running zBlock since it was first available to the public, and have not seen a single crash based on having zBlock installed, even with the very early version of the plug-in.
I have also seen MANY gaming servers run by ISP's that do not appear to have any problems from what I have heard (Whisper would potentially agree with this), so if you believe your problem is so widespread, I have never heard about it from the likes of other service providers who have implemented it. The leagues that I have played in run zBlock Min/Max and neither has ever interfered with the game play on those servers, nor caused server crashes. I agree with Wim here, in that it must be a platform specific problem that is acting as the catalyst for the symptoms you are seeing. Regards, Adam -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:59 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update released -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could you give me the specifics of the servers you run? Since the plugin is required in several leagues and I have yet to hear a single complaint about crashing, it's likely a platform specific issue. Having more information about the systems that it seems to have issues with would help me towards possibly finding / fixing the issue. As for error handling, it's hard to 'handle an error' that, as far as I'm aware, isn't even occuring. Ask other server providers such as Whisper, he'll also tell you that zBlock runs perfectly stable. On 4/13/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You're welcome to > that feedback. I'm just giving mine from people who have no idea what > the error messages are as they give no indication that its zblock at > fault. Hence probably why no-one thinks there's any problem with it > and why you think everything is good (always cunning). > > 90% of the people we get coming to us think its Valve, as soon as we > remove zblock its fine. Now that _could_ be outdated versions, but 1) > it shouldn't make the server crash under _any_ circumstances and 2) > you should give a clear indication its zblock and not some random > error that takes mind readers to figure and not Valve. > > You really do neither properly. > > Fortunately for us, we are now used to the problems with zblock after > so many occurances with its errors and can relatively quickly point > people in the right direction to the best fix. > > > On 4/13/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So far, i'v only > > seen people have problems with outdated versions of zblock, beyond > > that, I have yet to receive any real negative feedback. With most > > european leagues using it, both australian leagues using it, and > > next season of CAL using it's codebase, I can definitely say that > > the good feedback easily outweighs the bad. > > > > On 4/13/06, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Heh, someone who > > > admits to being co-creator of zblock? Had so many > > fecking > > > issues from people using zblock breaking servers its not funny. > > > First thing we do now when there's a problem with someone screwing > > > up a server is > > ask > > > if > > > someone has added zblock, 99% of the time its yes and the fix is > almost > > > instant, no doubt people can guess what that is. > > > > > > > > > On 4/13/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Somehow this > > > > was helping the manimod server plugin support custom > > player > > > > skins, cl_min_t and cl_min_ct used to be forced to 4 (since > > > > there > > > weren't > > > > 4 > > > > skins back than, this wasnt an > > > > issue), now because a 4th skin exists, this issue arises. > > > > > > > > @ Alfred: > > > > As co-creator of zBlock I have obvious intrest in being abled to > > change > > > a > > > > players settings, something that would be ideal, or beyond ideal > > > > :), > > is > > > if > > > > the server can have a convar list thats enforced on clients that > > > connect, > > > > these would be temporary and disabled as soon as the player > > > > leaves > the > > > > server. If you wan't more of an explanation of how I imagine > > > > this, > > i'll > > > > email you directly, or send it here, whichever works best. > > > > > > > > On 4/13/06, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The cvar is being slammed to 1 by several 3rd party plugins (I > > > > > am > > not > > > > sure > > > > > why), and once it is set the setting stays with you until you > > manually > > > > > change it. We are looking at ways of preventing plugins for > breaking > > > > clients > > > > > like this but in the meantime please review any plugins you > > > > > have > > > > installed > > > > > and make sure they do not do this behavior. > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > artiecs wrote: > > > > > > I don't think it's the server's Alfred. I was seeing this > problem > > > > > > (one model > > > > > > per team only) on our server immediately after the update. > > > > > > Found > > the > > > > > > cl_minmodels 0 fix in the steam forums, and since i've > > > > > > changed > it > > to > > > > > > 0 I've rejoined our server several times and all the models > > display > > > > > > fine without > > > > > > having to re-enter the cvar manually each time i rejoin. So > > > > > > it doesn't look like the server's forcing a cvar change. > > > > > > Looks more like the > > update > > > is > > > > > > forcing the cl_minmodels cvar to 1 on clients when they get > todays > > > > > > update, > > > > > > and once it's changed back to 0 it's fine from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Artie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:33 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update released > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it looks like some servers are forcing cl_minmodels to > > > > > > one, > and > > > > > > when you > > > > > > join servers after that you only see the two models. The > > > > > > work > > around > > > > > > for now > > > > > > is to manually reset that cvar. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > > > milchworld wrote: > > > > > >> seems to be cl_minmodels 1 default now !? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Alfred Reynolds schrieb: > > > > > >>> Remove any plugins you have and see if that fixes the problem. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> - Alfred > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Andreas Grimm wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> Im server admin and got the same problem ... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Update is up to date and on all servers (linux and > > > > > >>>> windows) > and > > > the > > > > > >>>> models are only Guerrilla and GIGN > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > > >>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von > > Alfred > > > > > >>>> Reynolds Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. April 2006 23:00 > > > > > >>>> An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > >>>> Betreff: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update > > > > > >>>> released > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I don't see that on the handful of servers I sampled. > > > > > >>>> Make > sure > > > you > > > > > >>>> are joining an updated server. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> - Alfred > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Stuart Stegall wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> All terrorists appear as Guerrilla and all > counter-terrorists > > > > > >>>>> appear as GIGN no matter what is selected. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> An update to Counter-Strike: Source has been released. > > > > > >>>>>> To > get > > > the > > > > > >>>>>> update run the hldsupdatetool. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> This update brings HDR to de_dust and adds two new > > > > > >>>>>> player models, the GSG9 and Arctic. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> - Alfred > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > >>>>>> archives, please visit: > > > > > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > >>>>> list archives, please visit: > > > > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > >>>> list archives, please visit: > > > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > >>>> list archives, please visit: > > > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > >>> list archives, please visit: > > > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > >> list archives, please visit: > > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by Hostworks Message Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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