Who was bitching about not being able to play CS anyways? I`m sorry for the people wherever they are all of them suffering anything I really am. I really don`t watch tv or news much. As for the topic of discussion with is HLDS ADMIN what exactly are u looking to hear from us so you can stop wasting our time? The discussion was about Valves obvious lack of re-investment in their network infrastructure and obviously qualified network support staff. Not about a snow storm or suffering people.
Merry Christmas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:43 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: RE: Re: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts Then I guess I may have things backwards in thinking that any personal inconvenience should be outweighed by actual tragety suffered by others. Yeah, not oficially winter, so those people aren't oficially freezing. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003482605_webstormmainb ar17.html Or am I also wrong in also thinking that maybe local repair efforts should be aimed at getting people heat, instead of making sure CS players can get online. And no matter what Valve did or didn't do, they are still relying on outside resources as much as anyone else in the area. Even the fact that it may be the Valve employees, or others that are in charge of keeping things running, are too busy keeping their families warm wouldn't be reason enough for some. Maybe we even found out why people feel that CS, DoD, et. al. are loosing players. It may possibly be the lack of soul and "community". >Last I checked Winter hasn't begun yet. :)~ > >Obviously people are not complaining about loss of service as being equivalent >to loss of life or livelihood... I think you may have gone a bit overboard >with that one. The majority of complaints are centered around an apparent >lack of re-investment in infrastructure on Valve's part and it is a valid >complaint. Perhaps we have demonstrated too much faith in Valves >understanding of the most basic concept in network management... that being, >no single point failure should bring a network down. That fact stands on it's >own and need not be measured against a lost Christmas for those unfortunate to >have been effected by the storms. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:27 PM >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts > > >Lets keep things in perspective people. Over a million people without power >or heat int the middle of winter. Christmas planning for lots of those are >out the window because of lost wages, loss of life, and loss of basic >services, and people are whining about not being able to play a computer game >for a few days, and then exorcising Valve about not having things back online >immediately. > >Lets think about things based on the effects on real people lives instead of >using a tragedy to puff one's resume. > >It's nice to see the spirit of the holidays on display. > > >>Netcom had a massive outage in '96 that lasted almost the same >>duration as this valve outage. >> >>At 11:06 AM 12/18/2006, -Mike- wrote: >>>There are far too many 90% empty datacenters practically sitting on >>>top of major exchanges down here in the SF Bay Area (and all over >>>the US) for Valve to have suffered the outage they saw due to storm >>>conditions. I'm sorry, but a decent distributed network >>>architecture with properly configured load balancing hardware takes >>>care of these single points of failure. But hey, what do I >>>know... I only managed Yahoo's mailservers at GlobalCenter, >>>FriendFinder and Lycos' hardware at Exodus, built and managed >>>bulletproof network backbones at @Home and Netcom... So it's not >>>like I'd know anything about engineering a method of preventing a >>>little lack of power, IP dialtone, or overload from taking >>>your biggest cash machine offline. >>> >>>(sigh) >>> >>>Sorry Valve, I'm gainfully employed and I do not consult on the side. >>> >>>-Mike- >>>~~~~ >>>-Mike- is: Biker ~ Slacker ~ Iconoclast ~ Eclectic Thinker >>> >>>----- Original Message ---- >>>From: Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:21:39 PM >>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts >>> >>>This is true only as long as you work with tested and widely adopted >>>solution like Active Directory. For closed proprietary system of Steam >>>size designed without redundancy in mind this can be a kind of tricky >>>exercise... >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Roman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>archives, please visit: >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please >>visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
