You would have to ask their sales force if being able to say the system is redundant would help them make sales.
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob johnson > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:45 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Still sounds like alot of money invested for nothing. Where is the ROI > for Valve? Will this cost them sales? I say no, the software has been > bought and paid for. By the time the next release rolls > around everyone > will have forgotten about this. Did they lose data? Nope. > Lawsuits? Nope. > Why then would they dump many thousands of dollars into a > more reliable > and redundant system? Businesses do things that will help > them make money > and this won't. > > Anyone from Valve care to chime in?? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chad > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:50 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts > > You are right, networking 101 teaches that, I took the > networking class > in high school, and got my NET+ certification, Even I know > that backups > are important, and I'm a college freshman (well I have enough > credits to > be a sophomore) I have backups, and they work, my laptop > decided one day > to disable all the user accounts and delete any that were useful (even > administrator was disabled) i got back up and running in 5 > minutes, and > in 15 i had my programs back, and in the end spent more time trying to > fix the laptop than trying to recover from it. > > after taking networking 101, I now have my computers (and switches and > > routers) in my dorm on UPSes, and on a cart that in a power > outage of my > floor could be wheeled downstairs, or in an Internet outage, I have a > very long (100 M) cable to reach any other part of the building, and I > could make it longer with a repeater if I had to, but it is > long enough. > > Valve has a lotbigger budget, and paying customers and a lot better > trained people than me, and should have much better backups and > redundancy, I can survive a loss of service to my floor, with minimal > downtime of my services, so valve should be able to stand the > loss of a > city (even by nuke) with minimal affect to the rest of the > world, if the > whole US was out of power, or gone by nuking, then I would be > okay with > them being off line, for a few days > > Scott Tuttle wrote: > > > Such redundancy is Networking 101 and Programming 101... You can > > > choose to ignore it if you like... But in the real word it is fact . > > > > > > Valve is probably making enough money to make it reasonable for them > > > to invest in a redundant system for that "money making" aparatus. > > > That is Economics 101. You think it looks good to investors that the > > > "backbone" of the system went down for the entire world > because of one > > > geological disaster? You think that's a good selling point for > > > software developers that want to bring their product to market? > > > 273,468 game players couldn't play because Valve had all > their eggs in > that one "geographical" basket. > > > Wise business decision? You decide... > > > > > > Ok maybe they are 500 level courses but you still get the point :D > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [ > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:57 PM > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts > > >> > > >> All I'm seeing is whining, pettiness, and monday morning > > >> quarterbacking. > > >> > > >> Lets try this. If anyone out there has a diagram of the Valve > > >> infrastructure, and a complete understanding of who they contract > > >> with for what services and facilities, then lets see it. > > >> > > >> I only am reading people bitching about what Valve should have done > > >> over the last 10 years, and "I could do it better", without any > > >> reguard or perspective on what the real world impact things may be > > >> having in the Seattle area. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, please visit: > > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > > > -- > > Cal, Stanford -Students Only Classifieds > Students only , Pay nothing to Buy & Sell textbooks, furniture & more. > http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=20e9b7562a > 9c927234e3ca61ecb4660b > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
