It's been said before that fakeclients only works when a small number of
servers are running it. Since there is such a saturation of it with the
"bigger" groups out there, the only people really playing on those
servers most of the time is the fake clients themselves.



Sent from cyberwurx-ge3-1-atl1.ag1.globalcompass.com (66.154.0.1)  2 ms
1 ms  1 ms
Then from atl1-br1.101.globalcompass.com (69.61.56.197)  1 ms  1 ms  1
ms
Then from 208.173.59.61 (208.173.59.61)  1 ms  1 ms  1 ms
Then from 204.70.200.45 (204.70.200.45)  1 ms
pr1-so-1-2-0.AtlantaPaix.savvis.net (204.70.200.41)  1 ms 204.70.200.45
(204.70.200.45)  1 ms
Then from dcr2-so-0-3-0.atlanta.savvis.net (204.70.193.237)  1 ms  1 ms
208.172.75.237 (208.172.75.237)  1 ms
Then from * cr1-tengig0-7-0-0.dallas.savvis.net (204.70.196.213)  21 ms
21 ms
Then from pr2-ge-4-0-0.DallasEquinix.savvis.net (204.70.200.169)  21 ms
21 ms  21 ms
Then from er1-te-3-1.dallasequinix.savvis.net (204.70.204.149)  21 ms
21 ms  21 ms
Then from 208.175.175.34 (208.175.175.34)  21 ms  21 ms  21 ms
Then from tuk-core-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.4.110)  68 ms  68 ms
tuk-core-01.inet.qwest.net (67.14.4.106)  68 ms
Then from tuk-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.11.22)  68 ms  68 ms
tuk-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.11.26)  68 ms


On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:59 -0600, Cc2iscooL wrote:
> It would be nice so that we legitimate server operators could actually get
> some decent traffic.
> 
> Can't you guys get traffic the old fashioned way...you know...by actually
> creating a community without cheating? :)
> 
> I've been doing it for over a year and can still get 3x24's full.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you guys use. I
> > swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive players onto
> > > my server.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working?
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote:
> > >> > Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 slots but
> > there
> > >> > being nobody on..
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hahahaha.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes joining
> > their
> > >> > > server
> > >> > > only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm <l...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hmmm ...
> > >> > > > It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom tabs is now
> > >> working
> > >> > > on
> > >> > > > network optimization...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> > >> Paloma
> > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM
> > >> > > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+
> > >> > > > serverslaggy.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Same here. There was never a problem until last update.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny
> > >> Schedel
> > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM
> > >> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+
> > >> > > > serverslaggy.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > We never had this problem before the latest update.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it until I
> > >> turned
> > >> > > > >net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug longer.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ________________________________
> > >> > > > > From: Ryan Mannion <floormas...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > >> > > > > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making
> > 26x+
> > >> > > servers
> > >> > > > > laggy.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I want to confirm that this patch has caused my 31-player
> > servers
> > >> to
> > >> > > > > exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the effects and
> > >> are
> > >> > > > > (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 confirms
> > >> frequent
> > >> > > > > high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 prior to the
> > >> patch.
> > >> > > > > FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and performance
> > was
> > >> > > > > fine.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and the team
> > >> change
> > >> > > bug)!
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Ryan
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak <
> > coldorak....@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and sourcetv) and
> > >> > > yesterday
> > >> > > > I
> > >> > > > >> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great internet
> > >> > > connection.
> > >> > > > >> So it would have been my TF2 server itself?
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Cold
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey
> > >> > > > >> <nephy...@doublezen.net>wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: and out:
> > k/s
> > >> rates
> > >> > > > >>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of 'faded'
> > >> colors on
> > >> > > > >>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below 66 even
> > >> though
> > >> > > > >>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine.
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i could be
> > >> mistaken.
> > >> > > > >>> Valve, can you please take a look at this and give us word?
> > >> > > > >>>
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> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
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