Right, but when someone joins and gets redirected to an empty server, they leave. The end result is still the same, the saturation of liars is just driving players to real servers.
Sent from my PC On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 17:13 -0600, Cc2iscooL wrote: > It's not so much that as the 32 slot servers that have 31 fake clients and a > redirection MOTD. > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote: > > > It's been said before that fakeclients only works when a small number of > > servers are running it. Since there is such a saturation of it with the > > "bigger" groups out there, the only people really playing on those > > servers most of the time is the fake clients themselves. > > > > > > > > Sent from cyberwurx-ge3-1-atl1.ag1.globalcompass.com (66.154.0.1) 2 ms > > 1 ms 1 ms > > Then from atl1-br1.101.globalcompass.com (69.61.56.197) 1 ms 1 ms 1 > > ms > > Then from 208.173.59.61 (208.173.59.61) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms > > Then from 204.70.200.45 (204.70.200.45) 1 ms > > pr1-so-1-2-0.AtlantaPaix.savvis.net (204.70.200.41) 1 ms 204.70.200.45 > > (204.70.200.45) 1 ms > > Then from dcr2-so-0-3-0.atlanta.savvis.net (204.70.193.237) 1 ms 1 ms > > 208.172.75.237 (208.172.75.237) 1 ms > > Then from * cr1-tengig0-7-0-0.dallas.savvis.net (204.70.196.213) 21 ms > > 21 ms > > Then from pr2-ge-4-0-0.DallasEquinix.savvis.net (204.70.200.169) 21 ms > > 21 ms 21 ms > > Then from er1-te-3-1.dallasequinix.savvis.net (204.70.204.149) 21 ms > > 21 ms 21 ms > > Then from 208.175.175.34 (208.175.175.34) 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms > > Then from tuk-core-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.4.110) 68 ms 68 ms > > tuk-core-01.inet.qwest.net (67.14.4.106) 68 ms > > Then from tuk-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.11.22) 68 ms 68 ms > > tuk-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.11.26) 68 ms > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:59 -0600, Cc2iscooL wrote: > > > It would be nice so that we legitimate server operators could actually > > get > > > some decent traffic. > > > > > > Can't you guys get traffic the old fashioned way...you know...by actually > > > creating a community without cheating? :) > > > > > > I've been doing it for over a year and can still get 3x24's full. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you guys > > use. I > > > > swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive players > > onto > > > > > my server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > > >> > Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 slots but > > > > there > > > > >> > being nobody on.. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hahahaha. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes joining > > > > their > > > > >> > > server > > > > >> > > only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm <l...@gmx.net> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Hmmm ... > > > > >> > > > It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom tabs is > > now > > > > >> working > > > > >> > > on > > > > >> > > > network optimization... > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > > Tony > > > > >> Paloma > > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM > > > > >> > > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > > 26x+ > > > > >> > > > serverslaggy. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Same here. There was never a problem until last update. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > > Ronny > > > > >> Schedel > > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM > > > > >> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > > 26x+ > > > > >> > > > serverslaggy. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > We never had this problem before the latest update. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it until > > I > > > > >> turned > > > > >> > > > >net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug longer. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > From: Ryan Mannion <floormas...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > >> > > > > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > > > > 26x+ > > > > >> > > servers > > > > >> > > > > laggy. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I want to confirm that this patch has caused my 31-player > > > > servers > > > > >> to > > > > >> > > > > exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the effects > > and > > > > >> are > > > > >> > > > > (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 confirms > > > > >> frequent > > > > >> > > > > high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 prior to > > the > > > > >> patch. > > > > >> > > > > FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and > > performance > > > > was > > > > >> > > > > fine. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and the team > > > > >> change > > > > >> > > bug)! > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Ryan > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak < > > > > coldorak....@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and sourcetv) > > and > > > > >> > > yesterday > > > > >> > > > I > > > > >> > > > >> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great > > internet > > > > >> > > connection. > > > > >> > > > >> So it would have been my TF2 server itself? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Cold > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey > > > > >> > > > >> <nephy...@doublezen.net>wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: and > > out: > > > > k/s > > > > >> rates > > > > >> > > > >>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of > > 'faded' > > > > >> colors on > > > > >> > > > >>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below 66 > > even > > > > >> though > > > > >> > > > >>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine. > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i could be > > > > >> mistaken. > > > > >> > > > >>> Valve, can you please take a look at this and give us > > word? > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > >> > > archives, > > > > >> > > > >>> please visit: > > > > >> > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > > >> > > > >> http://www.coldfire.info > > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > >> > > please visit: > > > > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
