It's not so much that as the 32 slot servers that have 31 fake clients and a redirection MOTD.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote: > It's been said before that fakeclients only works when a small number of > servers are running it. Since there is such a saturation of it with the > "bigger" groups out there, the only people really playing on those > servers most of the time is the fake clients themselves. > > > > Sent from cyberwurx-ge3-1-atl1.ag1.globalcompass.com (66.154.0.1) 2 ms > 1 ms 1 ms > Then from atl1-br1.101.globalcompass.com (69.61.56.197) 1 ms 1 ms 1 > ms > Then from 208.173.59.61 (208.173.59.61) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms > Then from 204.70.200.45 (204.70.200.45) 1 ms > pr1-so-1-2-0.AtlantaPaix.savvis.net (204.70.200.41) 1 ms 204.70.200.45 > (204.70.200.45) 1 ms > Then from dcr2-so-0-3-0.atlanta.savvis.net (204.70.193.237) 1 ms 1 ms > 208.172.75.237 (208.172.75.237) 1 ms > Then from * cr1-tengig0-7-0-0.dallas.savvis.net (204.70.196.213) 21 ms > 21 ms > Then from pr2-ge-4-0-0.DallasEquinix.savvis.net (204.70.200.169) 21 ms > 21 ms 21 ms > Then from er1-te-3-1.dallasequinix.savvis.net (204.70.204.149) 21 ms > 21 ms 21 ms > Then from 208.175.175.34 (208.175.175.34) 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms > Then from tuk-core-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.4.110) 68 ms 68 ms > tuk-core-01.inet.qwest.net (67.14.4.106) 68 ms > Then from tuk-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.11.22) 68 ms 68 ms > tuk-edge-06.inet.qwest.net (205.171.11.26) 68 ms > > > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:59 -0600, Cc2iscooL wrote: > > It would be nice so that we legitimate server operators could actually > get > > some decent traffic. > > > > Can't you guys get traffic the old fashioned way...you know...by actually > > creating a community without cheating? :) > > > > I've been doing it for over a year and can still get 3x24's full. > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you guys > use. I > > > swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive players > onto > > > > my server. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working? > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > >> > Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 slots but > > > there > > > >> > being nobody on.. > > > >> > > > > >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Hahahaha. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes joining > > > their > > > >> > > server > > > >> > > only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm <l...@gmx.net> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hmmm ... > > > >> > > > It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom tabs is > now > > > >> working > > > >> > > on > > > >> > > > network optimization... > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > Tony > > > >> Paloma > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM > > > >> > > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > 26x+ > > > >> > > > serverslaggy. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Same here. There was never a problem until last update. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > Ronny > > > >> Schedel > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM > > > >> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > 26x+ > > > >> > > > serverslaggy. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > We never had this problem before the latest update. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it until > I > > > >> turned > > > >> > > > >net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug longer. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > > >> > > > > From: Ryan Mannion <floormas...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > >> > > > > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > > > 26x+ > > > >> > > servers > > > >> > > > > laggy. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > I want to confirm that this patch has caused my 31-player > > > servers > > > >> to > > > >> > > > > exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the effects > and > > > >> are > > > >> > > > > (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 confirms > > > >> frequent > > > >> > > > > high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 prior to > the > > > >> patch. > > > >> > > > > FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and > performance > > > was > > > >> > > > > fine. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and the team > > > >> change > > > >> > > bug)! > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Ryan > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak < > > > coldorak....@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and sourcetv) > and > > > >> > > yesterday > > > >> > > > I > > > >> > > > >> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great > internet > > > >> > > connection. > > > >> > > > >> So it would have been my TF2 server itself? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Cold > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey > > > >> > > > >> <nephy...@doublezen.net>wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: and > out: > > > k/s > > > >> rates > > > >> > > > >>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of > 'faded' > > > >> colors on > > > >> > > > >>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below 66 > even > > > >> though > > > >> > > > >>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine. > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i could be > > > >> mistaken. > > > >> > > > >>> Valve, can you please take a look at this and give us > word? 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