I did, untill those exploits came out and someone kept crashing all my server, so i went into a rage and started doing it to other servers.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think that was your only downfall. You probably just didn't run the > community in a way that attracted new members to it. > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I own the game 3 times over now, I had to start a community and i kept > > failing due to servers like lotus and dig being player whores. > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote: > > > > > You're still trying to justify running a cracked game and pandering to > > > pirates? > > > > > > I also dare you to show me a time when I was running fakeclients or any > > > sort of scheme to attract traffic. Believe it or not, there are plenty > > > of legit communities out there - who don't lie to players, OR run > > > nosteam cracks so 15 year olds don't have to ask their parents for $20 > > > to buy TF2. > > > > > > > > > Sent from my High Horse > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 18:30 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > > no its because i cant compete with 40+ other servers who dont have a > > > > community that supports they're own servers, if you cant get players > on > > > it > > > > you dont need the server IMHO, but still it was only 1 server and > > > lotus(who > > > > im talking about mostly) started out cracked to attract players, > > > mana/1nsane > > > > said it himself to me in MSN back then. Honestly you think 1 little > > > cracked > > > > tf2 server is gonna ruin the game? nao your servers waisting valuable > > > time > > > > for players to find an actual server is killing the game because they > > > talk > > > > negatively about your servers and the game because valve wont patch > it. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > This coming from a guy who runs cracked versions of the game so > > people > > > > > who can't even be bothered to PAY for it can play. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > > > > Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you > guys > > > use. > > > > > I > > > > > > swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin < > mysteriousjus...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive > > > players > > > > > onto > > > > > > > my server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper < > mslee...@cyberwurx.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > > > > >> > Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 > slots > > > but > > > > > there > > > > > > >> > being nobody on.. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Hahahaha. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes > > > joining > > > > > their > > > > > > >> > > server > > > > > > >> > > only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm < > l...@gmx.net> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Hmmm ... > > > > > > >> > > > It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom > tabs > > is > > > now > > > > > > >> working > > > > > > >> > > on > > > > > > >> > > > network optimization... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf > Of > > > Tony > > > > > > >> Paloma > > > > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM > > > > > > >> > > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction > > making > > > > > 26x+ > > > > > > >> > > > serverslaggy. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Same here. There was never a problem until last update. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > >> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf > Of > > > Ronny > > > > > > >> Schedel > > > > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM > > > > > > >> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction > > making > > > > > 26x+ > > > > > > >> > > > serverslaggy. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > We never had this problem before the latest update. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it > > > until I > > > > > > >> turned > > > > > > >> > > > >net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug > > longer. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > >> > > > > From: Ryan Mannion <floormas...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > > > >> > > > > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM > > > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction > > > making > > > > > 26x+ > > > > > > >> > > servers > > > > > > >> > > > > laggy. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I want to confirm that this patch has caused my > > 31-player > > > > > servers > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > >> > > > > exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the > > > effects > > > > > and > > > > > > >> are > > > > > > >> > > > > (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 > > confirms > > > > > > >> frequent > > > > > > >> > > > > high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 > prior > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > >> patch. > > > > > > >> > > > > FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and > > > performance > > > > > was > > > > > > >> > > > > fine. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and > the > > > team > > > > > > >> change > > > > > > >> > > bug)! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Ryan > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak < > > > > > coldorak....@gmail.com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > >> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and > > sourcetv) > > > and > > > > > > >> > > yesterday > > > > > > >> > > > I > > > > > > >> > > > >> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great > > > internet > > > > > > >> > > connection. > > > > > > >> > > > >> So it would have been my TF2 server itself? > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> Cold > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey > > > > > > >> > > > >> <nephy...@doublezen.net>wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: > and > > > out: > > > > > k/s > > > > > > >> rates > > > > > > >> > > > >>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of > > > 'faded' > > > > > > >> colors on > > > > > > >> > > > >>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below > 66 > > > even > > > > > > >> though > > > > > > >> > > > >>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine. > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i > could > > be > > > > > > >> mistaken. > > > > > > >> > > > >>> Valve, can you 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