I don't know, maybe he does. He spends a lot of his time doing pointless things like complaining about client issues on a server mailing list, maybe he has time to sit in on his server and play moderator.
In seriousness though, the whole profanity issues falls under "admin preference". The people who want to make swearing a bannable offense will, and even though I don't understand that, it's their right and their choice and their servers to do whatever they want with. I (obviously) agree with f0rkz; the game is rated M so that means that the only people playing it are 18 year olds and kiddies whose parents bought it for them and saw the rating. It's a parents' job to keep their kids from hearing bad words in the internet, not ours. I have no idea where this stupid "profanity" tangent is going. On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 05:01 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > Yeah, that's the line along which I was thinking. Most people would be > swearing quite freely over the microphone, and I don't think Ook sit's > there monitoring voice comms on his server 24/7. Just seems kind of > pointless. > > On 10/12/2009 4:55 AM, msleeper wrote: > > Probably little if any. Most of the kiddies who freak out with the > > swearing usually do it over mic. > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 04:46 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > > > >> I am interested in knowing the impact of having word-filters enabled on > >> the player count. I don't agree with the practice, but then again it's > >> not my server(s). > >> > >> On 10/12/2009 4:12 AM, Ook wrote: > >> > >>> I only ban those that refuse to follow the rules, and my ban list is quite > >>> small. Those that can't control their potty mouth don't usually hang > >>> around > >>> for long. The rest of us don't have a problem with it. > >>> > >>> One of admin mods default plugins has a swear filter, or actually a word > >>> filter because you can add any word you want the list, and it gets > >>> replaced > >>> with ****. I wanted to take it a step further, because I got tired of > >>> seeing > >>> "**** you" all the time. I ended up modifying the sank sounds plugin to > >>> kick > >>> the player when they say certain words. That worked real well - players > >>> learn real fast that on my server, you control your potty mouth or good > >>> bye. > >>> The end result is a server where most of the regulars control their > >>> tongue, > >>> and where those teens that don't swear and don't want to hear it (yeah, I > >>> know there aren't that many out there, but there are some) can come here. > >>> My > >>> girls can play there without hearing the usual fu arsehole etc etc. > >>> > >>> What is funny is a while ago someone took my private beach map (it's not > >>> mine, actually - but I run it 24/7 and I've heavily modified the entities) > >>> and started up an EU server with my name and map, but without the swear > >>> filters. Want to play private beach but want to be able to swear? Come to > >>> Ooks Private Beach EU server and curse to your hearts content! > >>> > >>> My server kept packing in the peeps, their server sat empty. They finally > >>> took it down because no one wanted to play there. Go figure :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Mark"<bigb...@gmail.com> > >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:26 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released > >>> > >>> > >>> 1. Unfortunately, I would imagine teens being a large part of the user > >>> base. Nevermind teens, most players cuss in general regardless of age > >>> (if you're a nay-sayer, you'd be surprised). > >>> > >>> Banning for bad language is an over-reaction in my opinion and there > >>> are better ways to deal with the use of profanities. Fortunately, > >>> there are SM plugins; a simple search yielded the following: > >>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=499584 > >>> > >>> 2. What does this have to do with the recent update? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ook<ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> That really isn't for you to decide now, is it? I run a PG-13 OP4 server, > >>>> and my admins are pretty militant about enforcing that. It's working well > >>>> and has for a while now, and there are plenty of teens that play there > >>>> and > >>>> respect the no profanity rules. > >>>> > >>>> Seriously, what percentage of players do you think are teens? Do adults > >>>> drop > >>>> their IQ by 30 points and develop a potty mouth simply be being in-game? > >>>> Or > >>>> are many/most of them mouthy immature teens to start with? I vote for the > >>>> latter... > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "f0rkz"<h...@f0rkznet.net> > >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:08 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I mean... It is an M rated game. Teens shouldn't be playing in the > >>>>> first place. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, Ook wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I parse my server logs on a regular basis, and I can look up any player > >>>>>> by > >>>>>> steam id, name, or IP and see all names and IPs they have used. You > >>>>>> want > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> ban people that swear a lot? That is probably 90% of your user base. > >>>>>> There > >>>>>> are a lot of people out there that just can't control their mouths. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "w4rezz"<w4r...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:17 AM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >>>>>> Released > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too much? I > >>>>>> dont wanna use swear filter. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2009/12/9 Don Williams<d...@precdata.com>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or tried to > >>>>>>> perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian > >>>>>>> L. > >>>>>>> Sent: 2009-12-08 11:49 AM > >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >>>>>>> Released > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf, > >>>>>>>> exe, > >>>>>>>> and yes, ini > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian > >>>>>>>> L. > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM > >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >>>>>>>> Released > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote myself from IRC: > >>>>>>>> [.... "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys > >>>>>>>> files > >>>>>>>> between client/server"<- does that mean i can still remotely > >>>>>>>> download > >>>>>>>> my .ini including my SQL logins?] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
