Or you can fire up another 2 or 3 brain cells and realize that this isn't the place for client gripes.
But as I said, your rules are your rules and that is A-Okay with me. I don't care what other people do on their own servers, and since I don't play there it doesn't matter if I understand why you want to control peoples' language in an M rated game. It's your server, more power to you. On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:11 -0800, Ook wrote: > I probably waste more time discussing things with people that just don't get > it...what I do works and I have players in my server, many of which come to > my server because of my rules. Doesn't really matter to me whether anyone > else here gets it or agrees with it or not. And if my comments on client > issues offends you that much, you can solve the problem by simply > kill-filing me :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "msleeper" <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server > > > >I don't know, maybe he does. He spends a lot of his time doing pointless > > things like complaining about client issues on a server mailing list, > > maybe he has time to sit in on his server and play moderator. > > > > In seriousness though, the whole profanity issues falls under "admin > > preference". The people who want to make swearing a bannable offense > > will, and even though I don't understand that, it's their right and > > their choice and their servers to do whatever they want with. I > > (obviously) agree with f0rkz; the game is rated M so that means that the > > only people playing it are 18 year olds and kiddies whose parents bought > > it for them and saw the rating. It's a parents' job to keep their kids > > from hearing bad words in the internet, not ours. > > > > I have no idea where this stupid "profanity" tangent is going. > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 05:01 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > >> Yeah, that's the line along which I was thinking. Most people would be > >> swearing quite freely over the microphone, and I don't think Ook sit's > >> there monitoring voice comms on his server 24/7. Just seems kind of > >> pointless. > >> > >> On 10/12/2009 4:55 AM, msleeper wrote: > >> > Probably little if any. Most of the kiddies who freak out with the > >> > swearing usually do it over mic. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 04:46 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > >> > > >> >> I am interested in knowing the impact of having word-filters enabled > >> >> on > >> >> the player count. I don't agree with the practice, but then again it's > >> >> not my server(s). > >> >> > >> >> On 10/12/2009 4:12 AM, Ook wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I only ban those that refuse to follow the rules, and my ban list is > >> >>> quite > >> >>> small. Those that can't control their potty mouth don't usually hang > >> >>> around > >> >>> for long. The rest of us don't have a problem with it. > >> >>> > >> >>> One of admin mods default plugins has a swear filter, or actually a > >> >>> word > >> >>> filter because you can add any word you want the list, and it gets > >> >>> replaced > >> >>> with ****. I wanted to take it a step further, because I got tired of > >> >>> seeing > >> >>> "**** you" all the time. I ended up modifying the sank sounds plugin > >> >>> to kick > >> >>> the player when they say certain words. That worked real well - > >> >>> players > >> >>> learn real fast that on my server, you control your potty mouth or > >> >>> good bye. > >> >>> The end result is a server where most of the regulars control their > >> >>> tongue, > >> >>> and where those teens that don't swear and don't want to hear it > >> >>> (yeah, I > >> >>> know there aren't that many out there, but there are some) can come > >> >>> here. My > >> >>> girls can play there without hearing the usual fu arsehole etc etc. > >> >>> > >> >>> What is funny is a while ago someone took my private beach map (it's > >> >>> not > >> >>> mine, actually - but I run it 24/7 and I've heavily modified the > >> >>> entities) > >> >>> and started up an EU server with my name and map, but without the > >> >>> swear > >> >>> filters. Want to play private beach but want to be able to swear? > >> >>> Come to > >> >>> Ooks Private Beach EU server and curse to your hearts content! > >> >>> > >> >>> My server kept packing in the peeps, their server sat empty. They > >> >>> finally > >> >>> took it down because no one wanted to play there. Go figure :-) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "Mark"<bigb...@gmail.com> > >> >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >> >>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:26 AM > >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >> >>> Released > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Unfortunately, I would imagine teens being a large part of the > >> >>> user > >> >>> base. Nevermind teens, most players cuss in general regardless of age > >> >>> (if you're a nay-sayer, you'd be surprised). > >> >>> > >> >>> Banning for bad language is an over-reaction in my opinion and there > >> >>> are better ways to deal with the use of profanities. Fortunately, > >> >>> there are SM plugins; a simple search yielded the following: > >> >>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=499584 > >> >>> > >> >>> 2. What does this have to do with the recent update? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ook<ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> That really isn't for you to decide now, is it? I run a PG-13 OP4 > >> >>>> server, > >> >>>> and my admins are pretty militant about enforcing that. It's working > >> >>>> well > >> >>>> and has for a while now, and there are plenty of teens that play > >> >>>> there and > >> >>>> respect the no profanity rules. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Seriously, what percentage of players do you think are teens? Do > >> >>>> adults > >> >>>> drop > >> >>>> their IQ by 30 points and develop a potty mouth simply be being > >> >>>> in-game? > >> >>>> Or > >> >>>> are many/most of them mouthy immature teens to start with? I vote > >> >>>> for the > >> >>>> latter... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>> From: "f0rkz"<h...@f0rkznet.net> > >> >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >> >>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:08 AM > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >> >>>> Released > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> I mean... It is an M rated game. Teens shouldn't be playing in the > >> >>>>> first place. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, Ook wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> I parse my server logs on a regular basis, and I can look up any > >> >>>>>> player > >> >>>>>> by > >> >>>>>> steam id, name, or IP and see all names and IPs they have used. > >> >>>>>> You want > >> >>>>>> to > >> >>>>>> ban people that swear a lot? That is probably 90% of your user > >> >>>>>> base. > >> >>>>>> There > >> >>>>>> are a lot of people out there that just can't control their > >> >>>>>> mouths. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>>>> From: "w4rezz"<w4r...@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >> >>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:17 AM > >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >> >>>>>> Released > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too much? > >> >>>>>> I > >> >>>>>> dont wanna use swear filter. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> 2009/12/9 Don Williams<d...@precdata.com>: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or > >> >>>>>>> tried to > >> >>>>>>> perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses? > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >> >>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > >> >>>>>>> Maximilian > >> >>>>>>> L. > >> >>>>>>> Sent: 2009-12-08 11:49 AM > >> >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >> >>>>>>> Released > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, > >> >>>>>>>> vdf, > >> >>>>>>>> exe, > >> >>>>>>>> and yes, ini > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >> >>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > >> >>>>>>>> Maximilian > >> >>>>>>>> L. > >> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM > >> >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update > >> >>>>>>>> Released > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Quote myself from IRC: > >> >>>>>>>> [.... "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys > >> >>>>>>>> files > >> >>>>>>>> between client/server"<- does that mean i can still remotely > >> >>>>>>>> download > >> >>>>>>>> my .ini including my SQL logins?] > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!! > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>> Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam > >> >>>>>>> :) > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> >>>>>>> archives, > >> >>>>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> >>>>>>> archives, > >> >>>>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> >>>>>> archives, > >> >>>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> >>>>>> archives, > >> >>>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> >>>>> archives, > >> >>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> >>>> archives, > >> >>>> please visit: > >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> >> please visit: > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> >> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
