At my age I don't really have the brain cells to spare :-). But I've been on this mailing list longer then most of you, and I learned a long time ago that it's pointless to complain about OT postings. While we are on this subject, have you noticed how calm it has been here lately? That is a bit unusual. Are we loosing members, or is this the calm before the storm?
And judging by the profanity filtering plugins that are available and in actual use out there in the real world, I know it just isn't me. There are many servers that make it quite clear that profanity will get you kicked/banned. ----- Original Message ----- From: "msleeper" <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server > Or you can fire up another 2 or 3 brain cells and realize that this > isn't the place for client gripes. > > But as I said, your rules are your rules and that is A-Okay with me. I > don't care what other people do on their own servers, and since I don't > play there it doesn't matter if I understand why you want to control > peoples' language in an M rated game. It's your server, more power to > you. > > > On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:11 -0800, Ook wrote: >> I probably waste more time discussing things with people that just don't >> get >> it...what I do works and I have players in my server, many of which come >> to >> my server because of my rules. Doesn't really matter to me whether anyone >> else here gets it or agrees with it or not. And if my comments on client >> issues offends you that much, you can solve the problem by simply >> kill-filing me :-) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "msleeper" <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server >> >> >> >I don't know, maybe he does. He spends a lot of his time doing pointless >> > things like complaining about client issues on a server mailing list, >> > maybe he has time to sit in on his server and play moderator. >> > >> > In seriousness though, the whole profanity issues falls under "admin >> > preference". The people who want to make swearing a bannable offense >> > will, and even though I don't understand that, it's their right and >> > their choice and their servers to do whatever they want with. I >> > (obviously) agree with f0rkz; the game is rated M so that means that >> > the >> > only people playing it are 18 year olds and kiddies whose parents >> > bought >> > it for them and saw the rating. It's a parents' job to keep their kids >> > from hearing bad words in the internet, not ours. >> > >> > I have no idea where this stupid "profanity" tangent is going. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 05:01 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: >> >> Yeah, that's the line along which I was thinking. Most people would be >> >> swearing quite freely over the microphone, and I don't think Ook sit's >> >> there monitoring voice comms on his server 24/7. Just seems kind of >> >> pointless. >> >> >> >> On 10/12/2009 4:55 AM, msleeper wrote: >> >> > Probably little if any. Most of the kiddies who freak out with the >> >> > swearing usually do it over mic. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 04:46 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I am interested in knowing the impact of having word-filters >> >> >> enabled >> >> >> on >> >> >> the player count. I don't agree with the practice, but then again >> >> >> it's >> >> >> not my server(s). >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/12/2009 4:12 AM, Ook wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> I only ban those that refuse to follow the rules, and my ban list >> >> >>> is >> >> >>> quite >> >> >>> small. Those that can't control their potty mouth don't usually >> >> >>> hang >> >> >>> around >> >> >>> for long. The rest of us don't have a problem with it. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> One of admin mods default plugins has a swear filter, or actually >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> word >> >> >>> filter because you can add any word you want the list, and it gets >> >> >>> replaced >> >> >>> with ****. I wanted to take it a step further, because I got tired >> >> >>> of >> >> >>> seeing >> >> >>> "**** you" all the time. I ended up modifying the sank sounds >> >> >>> plugin >> >> >>> to kick >> >> >>> the player when they say certain words. That worked real well - >> >> >>> players >> >> >>> learn real fast that on my server, you control your potty mouth or >> >> >>> good bye. >> >> >>> The end result is a server where most of the regulars control >> >> >>> their >> >> >>> tongue, >> >> >>> and where those teens that don't swear and don't want to hear it >> >> >>> (yeah, I >> >> >>> know there aren't that many out there, but there are some) can >> >> >>> come >> >> >>> here. My >> >> >>> girls can play there without hearing the usual fu arsehole etc >> >> >>> etc. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> What is funny is a while ago someone took my private beach map >> >> >>> (it's >> >> >>> not >> >> >>> mine, actually - but I run it 24/7 and I've heavily modified the >> >> >>> entities) >> >> >>> and started up an EU server with my name and map, but without the >> >> >>> swear >> >> >>> filters. Want to play private beach but want to be able to swear? >> >> >>> Come to >> >> >>> Ooks Private Beach EU server and curse to your hearts content! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> My server kept packing in the peeps, their server sat empty. They >> >> >>> finally >> >> >>> took it down because no one wanted to play there. Go figure :-) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>> From: "Mark"<bigb...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> >> >>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:26 AM >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update >> >> >>> Released >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 1. Unfortunately, I would imagine teens being a large part of the >> >> >>> user >> >> >>> base. Nevermind teens, most players cuss in general regardless of >> >> >>> age >> >> >>> (if you're a nay-sayer, you'd be surprised). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Banning for bad language is an over-reaction in my opinion and >> >> >>> there >> >> >>> are better ways to deal with the use of profanities. Fortunately, >> >> >>> there are SM plugins; a simple search yielded the following: >> >> >>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=499584 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 2. What does this have to do with the recent update? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ook<ooksser...@zootal.com> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> That really isn't for you to decide now, is it? I run a PG-13 OP4 >> >> >>>> server, >> >> >>>> and my admins are pretty militant about enforcing that. It's >> >> >>>> working >> >> >>>> well >> >> >>>> and has for a while now, and there are plenty of teens that play >> >> >>>> there and >> >> >>>> respect the no profanity rules. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Seriously, what percentage of players do you think are teens? Do >> >> >>>> adults >> >> >>>> drop >> >> >>>> their IQ by 30 points and develop a potty mouth simply be being >> >> >>>> in-game? >> >> >>>> Or >> >> >>>> are many/most of them mouthy immature teens to start with? I vote >> >> >>>> for the >> >> >>>> latter... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>>> From: "f0rkz"<h...@f0rkznet.net> >> >> >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> >> >>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:08 AM >> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update >> >> >>>> Released >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> I mean... It is an M rated game. Teens shouldn't be playing in >> >> >>>>> the >> >> >>>>> first place. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, Ook wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>> I parse my server logs on a regular basis, and I can look up >> >> >>>>>> any >> >> >>>>>> player >> >> >>>>>> by >> >> >>>>>> steam id, name, or IP and see all names and IPs they have used. >> >> >>>>>> You want >> >> >>>>>> to >> >> >>>>>> ban people that swear a lot? That is probably 90% of your user >> >> >>>>>> base. >> >> >>>>>> There >> >> >>>>>> are a lot of people out there that just can't control their >> >> >>>>>> mouths. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>>>>> From: "w4rezz"<w4r...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> >> >>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:17 AM >> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source >> >> >>>>>> Update >> >> >>>>>> Released >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too >> >> >>>>>> much? >> >> >>>>>> I >> >> >>>>>> dont wanna use swear filter. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> 2009/12/9 Don Williams<d...@precdata.com>: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or >> >> >>>>>>> tried to >> >> >>>>>>> perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses? >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> >>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of >> >> >>>>>>> Maximilian >> >> >>>>>>> L. >> >> >>>>>>> Sent: 2009-12-08 11:49 AM >> >> >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source >> >> >>>>>>> Update >> >> >>>>>>> Released >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> There is already a list of banned extensions that includes >> >> >>>>>>>> .dll, >> >> >>>>>>>> vdf, >> >> >>>>>>>> exe, >> >> >>>>>>>> and yes, ini >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> >>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of >> >> >>>>>>>> Maximilian >> >> >>>>>>>> L. >> >> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM >> >> >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source >> >> >>>>>>>> Update >> >> >>>>>>>> Released >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Quote myself from IRC: >> >> >>>>>>>> [.... "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and >> >> >>>>>>>> .sys >> >> >>>>>>>> files >> >> >>>>>>>> between client/server"<- does that mean i can still remotely >> >> >>>>>>>> download >> >> >>>>>>>> my .ini including my SQL logins?] >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!! >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>>> Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t >> >> >>>>>>> spam >> >> >>>>>>> :) >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >>>>>>> archives, >> >> >>>>>>> please visit: >> >> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >>>>>>> archives, >> >> >>>>>>> please visit: >> >> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >>>>>> archives, >> >> >>>>>> please visit: >> >> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >>>>>> archives, >> >> >>>>>> please visit: >> >> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >>>>> archives, >> >> >>>>> please visit: >> >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >>>> archives, >> >> >>>> please visit: >> >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >> archives, >> >> >> please visit: >> >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> > archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
