Although an interesting idea, some community based websites (not Steam community, I mean actual server community) may use at least JavaScript, e.g. jQuery for a fancy design, or perhaps even to identify statistics of the players connecting to the server (I use Google Analytics). If Valve must do something, then it should be something that won't be a detriment to the existing ideas out there that utilise the MOTD, such as the in-game radio plugins. Valve could just simply block plugin access to the MOTD if the webpage currently loaded in the MOTD is recognised as a Pinion advertisement.
On 30 March 2013 20:18, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > Valve and Pinion have always been in contact, and IIRC they even opened an > office in the same state as valve. > > I'm sure they could come up with some solution that can't be abused if > there's a need. > > Such as better client integration for Pinion to prevent abuse. > For example whitelisitng URLs on the client and only allowing > javascript/flash to run on them. > > This way legitimate websites that need these could get approved by valve. > Well just an idea. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Asher Baker <asher...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The except posted was from a very long conversation discussing IDEAS >> not PLANS, and was intended specifically in relation to the plugin >> thread it was posted in. There was really no reason for it to explode >> this much, but I do hope the immediate backlash will avoid any changes >> at all - I think the current system is fine and that it's Quickplay >> that's flawed not the MOTD. My apologies to DF for how people have >> twisted this out of all proportion. >> >> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <mreeu...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Asherkin would not put words into DF's mouth, thats for sure. >> > >> > One can question ofc if its really going to be removed, but with the >> > game-changing properties of the pinion plugin, its easy to see that >> Valve >> > isn't liking it: >> > - 30 seconds added before able to start with the game. (after connecting >> > etc) >> > - With map restarts (and therefore round re-start) Uber build up at >> start of >> > round is impossible, with 30 seconds missing of the round start time of >> 1 >> > minute, they cannot build up the uber charge when the ad gets shown. >> Same >> > goes for Engy to build up his equipment. Essentially killing any way for >> > those classes to be ready for a defense and offense. Thats quite >> > game-changing imo. >> > - loads of players complaining about it. >> > >> > >> > As I said in another reply, a way for players to block MOTD based on the >> > connected server (using their ID's or IP's?) would alleviate some. And >> as I >> > see complaints bout this in the Quickplay, disable this feature per >> default >> > when using Quickplay servers might be something. >> > >> > Think that would kill off the pinions and alike fast enough. >> > >> > There is a lot of legit ways of using the MOTD, and I really would not >> want >> > to lose those. >> > >> > And for those that use the Digest, PLEASE, when you REPLY, rename the >> > subject to the subject you reply to, and remove the 50k characters >> below, >> > leaving only the message you reply to. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: ics <i...@ics-base.net> >> > To: ubyu....@gmail.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, 30 March 2013, 19:55 >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 24, Issue 77 >> > >> > Pretty sure it wasn't flawed. >> > >> > -ics >> > >> > Paul kirjoitti: >> >> The only source was based on a rumor of a chat log on a forum thread >> >> showing Drunken_F00l (employee at Valve) talking to asherkin (a >> >> Sourcemod dev) about it. Perhaps the source was flawed information >> >> after all then. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 March 2013 18:34, ElitePowered . <elitepowe...@gmail.com >> >> <mailto:elitepowe...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Valve would never remove MOTD. They partnered with Pinion to put >> >> ads in CS:GO servers. If MOTD was taken off, a lot of TF2 mods >> >> wouldn't work. Such include: SLAG, Pinion, Donation pages, Rules >> >> pages, and anything else that requires MOTD. I don't even know why >> >> anyone would think it would be removed. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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