Eric, Please read my mail and the mail I was making a reply to before quoting me in your mails and making your assumptions based on an edited reply to my original mail.
Someone said valve need "personal time" and this was their reason for valve not releasing a patch for the server, the "down the beach" comment could have been "at home with wife" "down the pub" or "watching footy" does it matter they are all things you would do in "personal time" at the end of the day I and many others can't do any of them at present because we have to spend most nights and weekends restarting servers that are taken down because of very simple bugs that could have been picked up in a real beta test or could be fixed very quickly yet still seems to take valve 3 working days to fix. You then go on to make further quotes from the reply of witch I was not the author, perhaps you should move to a threaded mail client so you can actually work out who said what and who replied to what before you have to post using profanity to get your point across. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric (Deacon) Sent: 23 October 2004 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] another crasher :( Where the hell do y'all get shit like "Valve are down at the beach"? Have you seen them there yourself? Do you have a report of it? Is it just random projections of your own frustrations and ignorant view of "Corporate America" being hurled at Valve like a monkey hurling its poo? -- Eric (the Deacon remix) In a bold display of creativity, Mihai Badila wrote: > On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 09:14:50PM +0100 or thereabouts, Mark Ellis wrote: > >>Well we all need personal time but while Valve are down the beach I and many >>others are sitting here putting servers back up as fast as they are taken >>down because the smart guys at mygot release this info end of the week >>knowing that there will be 3-4 days before valve even start to look at a >>fix. >> >>We had a beta test and what a joke that was one map slow updates you could >>hardly call it a beta more just a hardware test. > > > Agreed. > > >>Like many others I think valve is too slow at releasing these fixes, we all >>moved over to steam so they could send out lots of small fixes fast but from >>what I can see steam is just a way of them collecting more data on users >>than rolling out fixes. > > > Steam is primary a money making machine. Its purpose is also delivering > patches, content etc. but think.. Steam does a hell of a job for Valve and a > really poor job for the little guy [valve steam product user]. And yes > INDEPENDENCE from Vivendi [forgot about that one]. > > I'm not against Steam but no other company has ever used such a method of > control for the money. > > This list is about 80% filled with frustration when you read the mails. > Kinda makes you think cs, dod and others were doing fine back in the days > when they were free. > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 19/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 19/10/2004 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
