Little update, Ran a ping test, lost only 3/1000 packets.
I rebooted and turned absolutely everything off on the box so HDD / CPU / Memory usage was ~0%, had the datacenter last night install a new fibre link. Still the same thing happens, only on TF2. Everytime it warps loss goes through the roof, sometimes the timeout reconnecting thing appears in the top right. I'm out of ideas, -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 4:26 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag Very strange. Try running a simple network ping in a loop once per second (and log this somewhere), so you can see if there are any network problems during these spike periods (perhaps the other games handle it more gracefully?). Also try graphing cpu/memory usage of the game server (and the host itself), maybe its spiking in CPU for some reason which would explain the spikes (if its busy processing some data/attack). - Andrew -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m...@bestgn.net.au Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 4:14 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag Here was a extreme case with 24 players, it randomly happens. Soometimes might be fine for a hour then it spikes. http://files.bestgn.net.au/cp_dustbowl0092.jpg Looks like a timeout, I sat down on a empty server with a stop watch, had mini spikes following durations apart (empty) - 15sec - 22sec - 10sec - 14sec - 25sec - 50sec (server fills - larger spikes) - 28minutes - 10minutes - 63minutes - 16minutes The ones seconds apart where little tiny jumps, the minutes apart jumps where bigger. The biggest one ive seen is in the screenshot. -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 3:25 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag Which part does it spike? The very first part (0 on x-axis) or further along in the middle? What you should do is sit idle in the server and note down when the spikes occur for 5-10 minutes and report back, lets see if there is a pattern. - Andrew -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m...@bestgn.net.au Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 12:39 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag http://files.bestgn.net.au/cp_dustbowl0083.jpg Thats what happens when it spikes, no real time pattern between the spikes seems quite random. Tried both on plain / custom, clean, old installs and copies from the other game server seems to make no real difference. No NTP either so its not clock drift :/ -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 11:43 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag Another thing to try is while playing (be sure it's a stock server - stock/plain servers should have zero problems!) turn on net_graph 3 and watch the output when you hit the problem. It could possibly be something within the data centre (maybe some device is temporarily holding game packets hostage for a second or two, which would explain the sudden warp)? The net graph should hopefully show this (sudden drop of activity and then spike). - Andrew -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m...@bestgn.net.au Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 11:32 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag Tried it all, with and without sourcemod /metamod. Had a few linux devs look over the kernel etc. TF2 Servers are holding perfect 990fps and 0.2ms VAR, cpu usage basically nothing. 100mbit link using only ~10%. Last night I played with net_maxcleartime, net_splitrate and net_splitpacket_maxrate managed to tweak it so we get 0 choke yet no difference -.- I also tried stock fps 300, made no difference. I also expermimented with ping boosts. I can run left 4 dead on the box without any issues. The issue seems to be TF2 only :/ On my other machine, no issues what so ever the machine is literally sitting one row above in the datacenter. The machines are running cloned setups. Had memory replaced, tried different cpus / cores etc. -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 11:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] TF2 Server lag I vaguely remember having this issue on an old CSS box. It ended up being caused by a dodgy SM plugin or something to do with it's configs. I'm sorry I can't be more detailed but I've not experienced this for many years. Obviously being from BestGN I won't say you don't know what you are doing, but have you tried a barebones install, then just ran the server using ./srcds_run -console -game cstrike +map de_dust2 and see if that still fails? _______________________________________________________ Shane Arnold - clontar...@iinet.net.au "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost." m...@bestgn.net.au wrote: > Yes I get the same, Debian etch and a half, dual quad box with pretty much > nothing on it. > > Any ideas? I tried pretty much everything I could think off > > - New kernel > - Higher / Lower FPS > - New Installs > - Seperate users for each install > - Insane max rates > - Nice / Renice > - Affinity > > Removed pretty much every unused process including ntp. > > > Any fresh suggestions would be great > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Hutch > Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 1:14 PM > To: h...@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Server lag > > > Are you folks having server lag issues? Remember a few months back > there was an update, I think it was one of the ones right before the > sniper update. Any hoo... The update back then caused a "Time Warp" > type lag where you where running, then you would freeze and then it > will quit and you would be 298475 feet away from where you where when > the freeze or lag ended. I am getting that again... > > I get it under the following conditions, both boxes at The Planet: > > Windows 2003 Server / Linux Slak > Meta/Sourcemod Stable latest release / No Admin mods whatsoever > With plugins / Without plugins > > Maybe a Steam network issue? > > And there is still a server crash out there for the kiddies. Had this > guy (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198010232177) get on > last night 3am'ish and say server was going down in one minute and > sure enough it did. > > And yes, I tried the following noted below and it didn't help with > the Time Warp Lag: > > It's just a jump to the left > And then a step to the right > With your hands on your hips > You bring your knees in tight > But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane, > Let's do the Time Warp again! > > Hutch > > > At 06:53 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote: > >> Send hlds mailing list submissions to >> h...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> hlds-ow...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available (Saul Rennison) >> 2. Re: Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available (Mike Zimmermann) >> 3. Re: Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available (Saul Rennison) >> 4. Re: Problems with the server lists? (shorec...@comcast.net) >> 5. Re: L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? (Robert Whelan) >> 6. Re: L4D Custom Campaigns + Versioning Issue (Mike O'Laughlen) >> 7. Re: [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update (k e) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:15:37 +0100 >> From: Saul Rennison <saul.renni...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: >> <7305d8560907151215x134b3ad8qca1f646035422...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Nice update Jason! >> >> I'm sure the Goldsrc'ers will be happy :D >> >> P.S. Update on my email from last week? >> >> Thanks, >> - Saul. >> >> >> 2009/7/15 Jason Ruymen <jas...@valvesoftware.com> >> >> >>> An optional update for Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is now available. >>> Please run hldsupdatetool to receive. This update was >>> >> previously available >> >>> as a beta. The specific changes are: >>> >>> Half-Life Engine >>> - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override of >>> ticrate >>> - Prevent more cases of server redirection >>> >>> CS/CZ >>> - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:22:52 -0500 >> From: Mike Zimmermann <rem...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: >> <75cf08750907151222tc449109jc0f4282426b70...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Wait, is this now? I feel like I've been traveling back and forth in HLDS >> time over the day. Lost style. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Saul Rennison >> > <saul.renni...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>> Nice update Jason! >>> >>> I'm sure the Goldsrc'ers will be happy :D >>> >>> P.S. Update on my email from last week? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> - Saul. >>> >>> >>> 2009/7/15 Jason Ruymen <jas...@valvesoftware.com> >>> >>> >>>> An optional update for Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is now available. >>>> Please run hldsupdatetool to receive. This update was previously >>>> >>> available >>> >>>> as a beta. The specific changes are: >>>> >>>> Half-Life Engine >>>> - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override of >>>> ticrate >>>> - Prevent more cases of server redirection >>>> >>>> CS/CZ >>>> - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:26:10 +0100 >> From: Saul Rennison <saul.renni...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: >> <7305d8560907151226g2db56e4dje4de094c8589b...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hehe yes this is now ;) >> >> Thanks, >> - Saul. >> >> >> 2009/7/15 Mike Zimmermann <rem...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> Wait, is this now? I feel like I've been traveling back and forth in >>> > HLDS > >>> time over the day. Lost style. >>> >>> -Mike >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Saul Rennison <saul.renni...@gmail.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nice update Jason! >>>> >>>> I'm sure the Goldsrc'ers will be happy :D >>>> >>>> P.S. Update on my email from last week? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> - Saul. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/7/15 Jason Ruymen <jas...@valvesoftware.com> >>>> >>>> >>>>> An optional update for Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is now >>>>> > available. > >>>>> Please run hldsupdatetool to receive. This update was previously >>>>> >>>> available >>>> >>>>> as a beta. The specific changes are: >>>>> >>>>> Half-Life Engine >>>>> - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override >>>>> > of > >>>>> ticrate >>>>> - Prevent more cases of server redirection >>>>> >>>>> CS/CZ >>>>> - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers >>>>> >>>>> Jason >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> > archives, > >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) >> From: shorec...@comcast.net >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with the server lists? >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: >> >> <553434996.1931881247688503729.javamail.r...@sz0169a.westchester.pa.mail.co >> > mcast.net> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Just add a line to the server.cfg that says "heartbeat"? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Olly" <oli...@gmail.com> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with the server lists? >> >> Try typing 'heartbeat' in the server console (without quotes) - If it shows >> up (after a little wait) in the server browser, add heartbeat in the >> autoexec.cfg >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:36:12 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Robert Whelan <mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? >> To: Zoid Kirsch <z...@valvesoftware.com>, Half-Life dedicated Win32 >> server mailing list <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: <547035.66770...@web111504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Hello Zoid, >> >> Thx for the reply, seems to be working so far. All 6 of our servers >> appear in the steam group and have survived 3 search key queries. >> There is one problem though, this is new as of today. I have 1 >> server which runs as +mp_gamemode survival +map l4d_sv_lighthouse. >> Its listed in the steam group with the other 5 though the "join >> game" option isn't available in the steam group area so connecting >> to it isn't possible in that window. I can however join directly or >> thru the serverbrowser etc. If I switch the problem?server over to >> coop/versus all is fine again. >> >> In the steam group server window it shows the server and ping?though >> doesn't show player counts 0/4 or what modes running ie: normal, >> versus or survival. Hope that's not to confusing, lemme know if I >> can help further. >> >> Thx >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Robert Whelan <mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:33:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? >> >> >> Dude... >> >> If this is true... you rock! Kudos, restarting now... >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Zoid Kirsch <z...@valvesoftware.com> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:03:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? >> >> Hi Robert. >> >> We updated the master servers today to specifically correct this >> issue.? If you haven't restarted your server today, please do so and >> it should correctly work with sv_search_key and steam groups. >> >> There is a minor issue on Linux servers when using sv_search_key >> that they won't show up for joining again until they heartbeat at >> least once after the last player left which make take a few >> minutes.? I'll be addressing this in a future update. >> >> -- >> /// Zoid. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:52 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? >> >> It sucks royally... having?steam group servers has been useless recently >> >> related topic: [hlds] L4D Steam Group Servers >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: MjrNuT <mjr...@gmail.com> >> To: h...@list.valvesoftware.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:19:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? >> >> I go the urge to play recently b/c of a new Addon pak to play. >> >> I report the same problem. >> >> 2 L4D servers >> Win2K3x64 >> Connects fine, then have to reboot servers to connect again. >> >> What's up with that? >> >> >> >> [FLASH] MjrNuT >> Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality >> >> www.flamesandash.com >> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Jonah Hirsch <crazydog...@gmail.com> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < >>> h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:53:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D search_key server good for only 1 use? >>> >>> Well, I'm still having this issue. >>> >>> I can reboot my servers, find a server once using the search key, then >>> > no > >>> more. >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> ? ? ? >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:14:11 -0400 >> From: "Mike O'Laughlen" <molaugh...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Custom Campaigns + Versioning Issue >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: >> <a795b6070907151614r50d3bb86q923ae7e7f7c03...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Thanks Zoid. >> I looked at Diput's mission file and that was causing the issue. >> >> Even excellent mappers don't RTFA: >> >> // version. You must increment this to the next integer (whole >> >>> numbers)every >>> >> // time you release an update. >> >> "Version" "6.1" >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Zoid Kirsch <z...@valvesoftware.com> >> > wrote: > >>> This is unfortunate. There is a "Version" field specifically in the >>> mission file used to describe the campaign to matchmaking. Note that >>> > this > >>> version field is an integer (as documented explicitly in the mission >>> > file > >>> example). If he listed the version as "6.0" and "6.1" in the mission >>> > file, > >>> the integer parser will both treat them as version 6. >>> >>> If you have the authors email, let him know that using a different >>> > integer > >>> value in the version field will correctly prevent cross version >>> >> joining. It >> >>> will also prompt users with the old version to upgrade to the new one >>> > when > >>> seeing friends playing on the new version. >>> >>> Future versions of Left 4 Dead will warn about invalid characters in the >>> version field. >>> >>> -- >>> /// Zoid. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: >>> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike O'Laughlen >>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:45 AM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: [hlds] L4D Custom Campaigns + Versioning Issue >>> >>> I've finally had a chance to play the Death Aboard custom campaign. It's >>> > an > >>> excellent offering, but ran into a few issues regarding the 6.0 and the >>> > 6.1 > >>> releases (possibly other versions may have had the same issue described >>> below). >>> >>> >>> > http://www.l4dmods.com/index.php?option=com_joomloads&view=package&Itemid=2&; > packageId=156 > >>> In Death Aboard, the author of a campaign (Diputs) has released a few >>> different versions of the campaign with different names for the VPK >>> (e.g.dthbrd61.vpk vs dthbrd6.vpk). Each VPK includes an updated campaign >>> name which includes the version number (Death Aboard 6.1). >>> >>> Just from observing my friends, users with both versions installed are >>> > able > >>> to click the Join button to enter the lobby, but the lobby system >>> > somehow > >>> gets confused and boots them. Once my friends removed the old version >>> > of > >>> the campaign then everything worked as expected. >>> >>> Anyone else encounter this issue? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:52:57 -0400 >> From: k e <mfnt...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server >> Update >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Message-ID: >> <24fac2e40907151652n3d4cbcb4pd0d5c54046aac...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> this latest update...I've had to totally delete one server.dll and run the >> update for the 4th time to get it to work... >> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Aj Collins <gamerzwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Sam, >>> The intertubes have been clogged. Ted tried to warn us! :P >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Olly <oli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Michiel, you seem to have a bug with your mail client. You seem to >>>> > only > >>> be >>> >>>> recieving the first message of each thread. >>>> If you recieved (read) any other emails, you wouldn't have shown >>>> > yourself > >>>> up >>>> by sending that email ;) >>>> >>>> 2009/7/15 Michael Krasnow <mnk...@mnkras.com> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I just want to say HOLY CRAP! release 1 update not 10! oh and please >>>>> >>>> change >>>> >>>>> your clock 0.o seriously 07 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:14 AM, CLAN RCR <clan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Poor Jason, he was probably tired. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Donnie Newlove < >>>>>> >>>>> donnie.newl...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glad to see I'm not the only one getting mail from 2007. I was >>>>>>> thinking maybe I was going crazy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:59 PM, AJ >>>>>>> > King<pcmaster...@hotmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Hahaha I Agree :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alex King >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: supersammyfl...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:47:24 +1000 >>>>>>>>> To: h...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated >>>>>>>>> >>>> Server >>>> >>>>>>> Update >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like how the original send dates remain the same >>>>>>>>> > (2007-10-26, > >>>>>> received >>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> minutes ago) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2009/7/15 Alec Sanger <eclyp...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> accidentally spooling out every update ever released to >>>>>>>>>> > tf2? > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>> Alec Sanger >>>>>>>>>> P: 248.941.3813 >>>>>>>>>> F: 313.286.8945 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: jas...@valvesoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>> To: h...@list.valvesoftware.com; >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:34:18 -0700 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Server >>>> >>>>>>> Update >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Required updates for Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> servers >>>> >>>>>> are >>>>>> >>>>>>> now >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> available. Please run hldsupdatetool to update. The >>>>>>>>>>> >>> specific >>> >>>>>>> changes >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> include: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Improved compatibility for direct sound >>>>>>>>>>> - Deathcam screenshots now move the player id panel to >>>>>>>>>>> > the > >>>> lower >>>> >>>>>>> right, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and hide other hud elements until the freezecam fades >>>>>>>>>>> - Improved autobalance calculation code when determining >>>>>>>>>>> > who > >>>> to >>>> >>>>>>> switch >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Improved networking compatibility for some routers >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed a crash during level init related to model >>>>>>>>>>> > loading > >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed issues on Dustbowl and Hydro that could occur >>>>>>>>>>> > when a > >>>>>> server >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> emptied in the middle of a round >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed a bug in the clientside player avoidance code, >>>>>>>>>>> > and > >>>>>> smoothed >>>>>> >>>>>>> it a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> little more >>>>>>>>>>> - Further crash fixes related to paged pool memory usage >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed scoreboard team scores label getting cut off >>>>>>>>>>> - Engineer buildings now explode when the Engineer dies >>>>>>>>>>> >>> during >>> >>>>>>> sudden >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> death >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed a spy backstab exploit where you could stab a >>>>>>>>>>> > player > >>>> who >>>> >>>>>> was >>>>>> >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> facing away from you >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed flailing at the low end of the cloak meter when >>>>>>>>>>> > the > >>>>> player >>>>> >>>>>>> gets >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> uncloaked automatically >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed texture detail level setting "Very high" not >>>>>>>>>>> > being > >>>>>> preserved >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Improved various error messages, and added links to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> steampowered >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> support pages >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed scoring problem where destroying a buildable >>>>>>>>>>> > added a > >>>>>> phantom >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> point, not attributed to any scoring bucket but still >>>>>>>>>>> >>> included >>> >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>>>> total >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> score >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed honeypot server problems >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed a rare crash caused by a medigun losing its owner >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed an exploit that allowed disconnected medics to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> continue >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ubercharging their target until they timed out >>>>>>>>>>> - TeamMenu now disables the spectate button if >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> mp_allowspectators >>>>> >>>>>> is >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> zero >>>>>>>>>>> - Added a missing "cannot_be_spectator" localization >>>>>>>>>>> > string > >>>>>>>>>>> - Re-added class count numbers above class buttons for >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> non-zero >>>> >>>>>>> classes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in addition to the class images >>>>>>>>>>> - Removed prefixes (tc_, ctf_, etc.) from map names in >>>>>>>>>>> >>> various >>> >>>>>>> places >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> where they're printed >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed some edge cases where grenades could go through >>>>>>>>>>> >>> player >>> >>>>> or >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> buildings >>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed rocket/grenade explosions being able to impart >>>>>>>>>>> >>> damage >>> >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thin ceilings >>>>>>>>>>> - The Engineer's "build X" commands will now behave >>>>>>>>>>> > properly > >>>>> when >>>>> >>>>>>> bound >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> directly to keys >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> hlds_announce mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_announce >>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>>>>>>>>> > list > >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! 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