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2009/7/26 Saul Rennison <[email protected]> > Your worst nightmare. > > Thanks, > - Saul. > > > 2009/7/26 Nightbox <[email protected]> > > > what is AOL ? > > > > 2009/7/26 Saul Rennison <[email protected]> > > > > > "Obviously an AOL user isn't going to join, but than again, do AOL > users > > > play CSS?" > > > I have many friends whose parents refuse to change ISPs (who are using > > > AOL), > > > and they play CS:S, albeit at 2Mbps... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > - Saul. > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/26 Steven Crothers <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Even so, your only looking at ~50kb/s which in todays day and age > isn't > > > > bad. > > > > The people who don't have at least that wouldn't be playing for other > > > > reasons (ping being the primary reason). Obviously an AOL user isn't > > > going > > > > to join, but than again, do AOL users play CSS? > > > > Anyway the personal settings I use are 10k/30k for my low/highs. > > However > > > in > > > > TF2 I noticed that you need to toss more rate into it and haven't > > > explored > > > > it much. > > > > > > > > On a side note, was the ability to set the clients rate from the > server > > > > removed in TF2 as well? I never really looked into it, but I remember > > > back > > > > in the day I could install a plugin and change a users rates from an > ES > > > > mod. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Richard Eid <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Adam, forcing a minrate of 50000 on people is not a friendly thing > to > > > do. > > > > > Lots of users around the world are still on what most of us would > > > > consider > > > > > pretty frickin' slow connections. 50000 means the user would need > to > > > > have > > > > > a > > > > > minimum of a 400 kb/s connection, and probably a little more to > > > provision > > > > > for any overhead or another process running on the client's PC that > > may > > > > > also > > > > > be sucking bandwidth, along with the potential that others may be > > using > > > > the > > > > > connection concurrently. 400 kb/s may sound slow to you and me, > but > > > some > > > > > parts of the world lucky enough to have Internet connections at all > > > would > > > > > love to have even half that speed. To assume that "most players > out > > > > there > > > > > should have at least" that isn't really fair. > > > > > > > > > > A few of us subscribed to the list had a discussion about it in the > > > > > unofficial #hlserveradmins IRC channel a while back. It is > > ultimately > > > > your > > > > > decision to make, but there isn't really anything wrong with > allowing > > a > > > > low > > > > > rate. It's mostly going to be at the user's detriment who may be > > using > > > a > > > > > low rate as they would probably experience some warping and other > > > network > > > > > related issues, but I think a little note about it in the MOTD > would > > > > > suffice > > > > > as an FYI to the players visiting your server. Instead of > *forcing* > > > them > > > > > to > > > > > possibly have a poor experience on your server, I always figure > it's > > > best > > > > > to > > > > > let them make the decision. > > > > > > > > > > If you feel this may hurt the experience players have while > visiting > > > your > > > > > server, the nice part is that you can change maxrate and minrate > > > settings > > > > > on > > > > > the fly. So you can have a core group of players on your server > > > observe > > > > > and > > > > > report any oddities that may occur as you test this network > variable. > > > > > There > > > > > are SourceMod plugins available that allow you to monitor the rate > of > > > > > connected users, so this should help you to add detail to your > > > > > documentation > > > > > for making your final judgement. You can always stop by the chat > and > > > > > discuss it further with us. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, this is about CS 1.6. The maximum value for rate in the > > > > GoldSource > > > > > engine is 20000. So set sv_maxrate to 20000(or 0), and minrate to > > > > whatever > > > > > you feel comfortable with. sv_maxupdaterate and sv_minupdaterate > > must > > > > also > > > > > be set properly, and in the spirit of not getting too long winded, > do > > > > your > > > > > homework. These are basic settings you need to know to get up and > > > > running > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > There's also nothing wrong with making sure that your users have > > their > > > > > rates > > > > > set properly, client-side. > > > > > > > > > > If all else fails, make sure that you actually have enough > bandwidth > > > > > available to provide for those game servers. Also, you didn't > finish > > > > > telling us what value you were using for +sys_ticrate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Richard Eid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Adam Nowacki <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ics wrote: > > > > > > > Default rate is 10000, which isnt enough for 66tick servers or > > > > 100tick > > > > > > > either. It's barely enough for 33tick. Sometimes even 25000 > isnt > > > > > enough, > > > > > > > atleast on 33tick TF2 servers with 30 players. > > > > > > > > > > > > Want a choke free tf2 server? > > > > > > > > > > > > sv_minrate 50000 > > > > > > sv_maxrate 100000 > > > > > > sm_cvar net_maxcleartime 0.001 > > > > > > sm_cvar net_splitrate 2 > > > > > > sm_cvar net_splitpacket_maxrate 50000 > > > > > > > > > > > > Most players out there should have at least 512kbit/s > connections. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
