Chris,
In many circles, mentioning NAT in the same sentence as IPv6 is
tantamount to heresy. Yes, NAT64 and NAT46 are possible, I can't see why
you'd consider something like that in relation to a game server. NAT66
is not permitted by the standards and I hope nobody ever implements it.
The whole point of IPv6 is to have more than enough addresses to give
each device, or server in your case, its own IP address. You could even
give each instance of your game servers its own IPv6 and run them all on
the standard port. Generally the guidelines for allocation suggest a /48
per end-user, to be subdivided into up to 65536 subnets of 2^64
addresses. With so many addresses available virtual hosting becomes
unnecessary and each site can have its own IP. This is not a waste and
is by design.
I assume you suggested NAT64 as a means to IPv6-enable a service that
doesn't natively support IPv6. While this is possible, to me it doesn't
make sense on a game server as the client doesn't do IPv6 either, so
you'd need a NAT46 on the client side as well. What's the point if they
can talk IPv4 with each other?
Chris
On 25/04/2011 22:47, Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
Im thinking of NAT here.. Would it be possible to run srcds on ipv6 if you had a NAT
device which would in fact "transform" the ipv4 packets to ipv6? Im having
about 4 physical mchines in a colo center, that runs a lot of gameservers behind my
firewall. Wouldn't my change to ipv6 only be to put on an address on the outside NAT
interface?
/Chris
Sent from my iPhone 4
Den 25/04/2011 kl. 22.21 skrev Max Pierson<nmaxpier...@gmail.com>:
Hi Saint,
I agree, there's hardly any demand from the user market at the moment even
here in the states. However, I think we're all aware that sometimes big
companies drag their feet on things like this, but I do have to applaud
Valve/Steam for getting OSX running natively. Sounds like they at least
listen to the community somewhat. So hopefully we'll at least see some
announcement soon about it. Kinda hoping they would have a beta out by then
so folks that run clusters can test v6 on IPV6 day in June, but I guess
we'll have to wait and see unless someone from Valve is watching and would
be kind enough to share some info with the community :>
--
m
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Saint K.<sai...@specialattack.net> wrote:
We're also IPv6 native, although the IPv6 penetration for end users in
Europe is nowhere yet so I don't really see the point yet on having IPv6
enabled for the gameservers. It is however interesting to know what VALVe's
views are on implementing IPv6 support in steam.
Saint K.
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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Max Pierson
Sent: 24 April 2011 20:00
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] IPv6 - Bumped
Hi *,
As I just joined the list, this is my first post, so don't shun me just yet
:) I saw an earlier thread (in Jan) in the archives about mention that
some folks were looking for any timeline or any info on HLDS that can speak
v6. It didn't look like it went very far, so i'm resurrecting it :) I have a
/48 at one of my colo facilities that we're testing at the moment. (No
tunneling, native v6 BGP feeds from leading v6 providers). It would be
awesome to get a few threads of Source running v6. Anyone out there from
Steam/Valve or with some insider info care to comment on any plans for HLDS
on v6?? Are there any plans in the works?? I have a huge testbed solely for
this project and am pretty excited about moving forward, but after doing
some research, I can't find much on this subject at all. Anyone else in this
boat?? All of my servers are already speaking v6, so now I just need the
binaries to comply ;)
And if i'm missing some info, clue bats are welcome if someone has links to
info that I may have missed. Otherwise, this might be a perfect time for an
online "Get to v6 guys!!" petition. I see WoW is already there, so Blizzard
is at least on the move. Hopefully others including our baby (for most of us
at least) will see that the demand is there, albeit a small minority that
knows what 128-bits of Hex looks like and has access to it :)
Sorry if this was a bit OT, but TIA,
--
m
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