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On Nov 9, 2012, at 4:20 PM, "Mattia Rossi" 
<mattia.rossi.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Am 08.11.2012 21:03, schrieb Hans Liu:
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ray Bellis <ray.bel...@nominet.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 8 Nov 2012, at 14:28, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:
>>>> Sure, but "log a system management error" is not something that a home 
>>>> router vendor can meaningfully implement, unless it puts a speaker in the 
>>>> home router and has it start bellowing "out of addresses" in every known 
>>>> language.
>>>> 
>>>> But the real problem is that this signal, even if received, will be 
>>>> misinterpreted as "router is broken, return to Home Despot and replace 
>>>> with one that isn't broken."
>>> <no hat>
>>> 
>>> I note that the Apple Airport Utility pops up warnings about various 
>>> errors, some of which relate to sub-optimal network configuration, rather 
>>> than misconfiguration.  In particular, they warn you if you try to use 
>>> double NAT.
>>> 
>>> Users can acknowledge those warnings, so they no longer appear.
>>> 
>>> I can envisage a box issuing a similar warning if it only gets a /64 from 
>>> its upstream.
>> As a CPE vendor, I don't think I'd design my product this way. I won't
>> have my router to issue a warning if it only gets a /64 from its
>> upstream. The reason?  Users see a warning in either log or LED, they
>> call either the operator or my customer service.  I really don't want
>> to say so but the one that will face a problem is the downstream
>> router, and that's not my problem.
> Your CPE router could be the downstream router. The user buys it, plugs it 
> in, doesn't work. No warning, nothing.
> He throws it out, even if it's not your fault, and never buys anything from 
> your company again.
> How's that for a scenario?

If I'm the downstream router, I can't get a prefix, of course I issue warning 
message. However, if I'm the one who still get an /64 and works fine as a leaf, 
I won't issue an warning message for a fore-coming downstream router attached 
to me.

> 
> Mat
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